Tito Mboweni refuses to scrap e-tolls: 'You pay for bread, and you'll pay for roads'

[The_Librarian]

Yo Tito!

Hear that sound? It's SARS losing revenue now.

 

[Sarg3_ZN]

Is Tito suggesting an e-Toll/transport surcharge is going to be added to the price of bread?

 

[ArtyLoop]

Dumb voters would have voted for them even if they threatened imprisonment before the elections. As long as the poor dumb votas uses public transport, they do not pay a single cent and this would not affect them. They are not worried about the middle class votas who vote for them and have to pay, they are far and few between, as can be seen by an almost 80-90% unemployment figure in SA.

Your figure is a bit off the mark there. Also many of the people you refer to, actually have cars. Granted the cars are often "hoenderhokke" they are still on the roads.
Stop Tito, what's that sound.
Its me not giving one **** about your bullshit now

 

[The_Librarian]

Next year's strike season'll be more interesting.

 

[BBSA]

Everyday I look forward to some burned gantries..... I go home disappointed. They can burn school and libraries but not this shît.

 

[The_Librarian]

Your figure is a bit off the mark there. Also many of the people you refer to, actually have cars. Granted the cars are often "hoenderhokke" they are still on the roads.

Interestingly, I had a look at people driving their cars after a near miss with a Mercedes (Merc was at fault).

Seems a lot of whites and blacks are driving older cars, but most hoity-toity blacks are driving grand, new cars. Very few hoity-toity whites driving grand new cars though.

 

[ArtyLoop]

Everyday I look forward to some burned gantries..... I go home disappointed. They can burn school and libraries but not this shît.

I think its quite difficult to burn an e-toll gantry

 

[The_Librarian]

I think its quite difficult to burn an e-toll gantry

Magnesium bomb?

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

Magnesium bomb?

e-Bomb.

 

[ForceFate]

Interestingly, I had a look at people driving their cars after a near miss with a Mercedes (Merc was at fault).

Seems a lot of whites and blacks are driving older cars, but most hoity-toity blacks are driving grand, new cars. Very few hoity-toity whites driving grand new cars though.

Wouldn't that depend on location?

 

[The_Librarian]

Wouldn't that depend on location?

I will have to assume that. But it should be interesting to stand for a whole day at a busy intersection and tally the vehicles up, and do the same at other busy intersections and other suburbs/cities*

*only where it is safe to do so.

 

[Looney]

I went to school with Tito Mboweni’s son. In fact we were good mates back in school. I proper feel like sending him a msg on facebook and telling him to give his dad a msg from South Africa, “Fsck you!cnut!”

 

[j4ck455]

I think its quite difficult to burn an e-toll gantry

Requires scientific experimentation before reaching such a conclusion.

 

[Eniigma]

I think its quite difficult to burn an e-toll gantry

Just convince the taxi owners they'll have to pay too.. the gantries will be destroyed by monday.

 

[BBSA]

I think its quite difficult to burn an e-toll gantry

Fine, I will be happy if they sell it for scrap metal.

 

[The_Librarian]

A nice, condensed summary of why OUTA (and most of us) is kicking back against this etoll malarkey :

Why OUTA says no to e-tolls

OUTA remains resolute on its call to have the scheme scrapped, not because we want to see SANRAL fail and not because we don’t want to pay for our infrastructure, but due largely to the following factors:

• The irrational decision in the presence of more effective funding methods available to Government;
  
  
• The administrative challenges which make it largely unworkable;
  
  
• The legality of the decision (to be tested in court if SANRAL continues with its summonses and protracted litigation);
  
  
• Its high contracted administration and operation costs at R9.9bn for five years;
  
  
• The six years of empirical evidence of public refusal to pay, the scheme’s ultimate failure.

This scheme is so administratively flawed, that even the taxi industry who are exempted from the payment of e-tolls, fail to apply the administration conditions to receive their exemption.

In addition, the GFIP construction is steeped in collusion and corruption as was evidenced in the Competition Commission’s findings. OUTA’s research shows that this 186km freeway upgrade should not have cost us more than R10bn. SANRAL paid R17.9bn. Furthermore, according to SANRAL, the e-toll collection tender was won by ETC-JV at R6.2bn in 2009, whereas the contract was signed in 2011 at R9.9bn, with no reasonable explanation to the public for this grossly excessive change. OUTA has requested on several occasions that an independent inquiry takes place to uncover the odious debts that society has been lumbered with in both the road construction and the e-toll contract. Government remains silent on these calls.

Government did not make the e-toll decision with the best interests of society at the core of its reasoning, especially when more efficient and lower-cost alternatives were available to it. More importantly, when there is obvious corruption that inflates the costs to the public, Government ought to demonstrate that it has meaningfully sought redress rather than simply passing these costs on to the users who are expected to pay.

 

[rietrot]

Its high contracted administration and operation costs at R9.9bn for five years

So the administrative contracts are at a end now? Because that's the only reason we can't cancel etolls is contractual obligations to some Austrian company?

 

[ArtyLoop]

So the administrative contracts are at a end now? Because that's the only reason we can't cancel etolls is contractual obligations to some Austrian company?

Apparently. Makes one wonder if they actually cared for what rights they were signing away in those contracts.

 

[Lupus]

Now imagine if the fuel levy was actually ring-fenced and used on the roads, it would've probably paid off that 9 billion in less than a year as well with change but of course noooo the government doesn't want to give any of it's gravey train up.

 

[lkswan747]

We paid/pay for corruption, so go F&ck yourself Tittie.