To All ISP's in South Africa

[lsmt]

To All the ISP's and Open Serve: You are just as bad as our government. You take from the poor and give to the rich. The company I support resides in the industrial areas Rosslyl Pretoria. I can only speak for Pretoria. BUT:
You ONLY supply fiber lines to the rich areas where most of the government officials find themselves (pretoria east, Santon, ect). You REFUSE to support any industrial area like Rosslyn, Watloo, Pretoria West, Ga-Rankuwa, ect. The fastest reliable connection we can get is 4Mb ADSL. The manufacturing industry is the heartbeat of the economy. It seems that you and JZ has a hidden agenda to kill the manufacturing industry so that the Chinese imports can take over. Further, like the old dial-up modems. I live in Pretoria north. We were the last to receive ADSL in our area. We paid double per Meg for a very long time for Dial-up before we had ADSL. NOW you do the same with fiber. The poor must always subsidize the rich. I've been told that Pretoria North might have fiber by 2030 and Rosslyn by 2027. You are a disgrace to the manufacturing industry.
p.s. I presume the Guptas is already on 100Mb fiber.

 

[MickeyD]

Your anger is misplaced.

You can order a dedicated fibre line from any network provider.

It won't be cheap but the option is available.

 

[flamevector]

the fibre you speak about so vividly are resedential lines. so low FUP but yes they are fast. issue with what you want is a business grade line. so you wont get Vumatel and the likes going into an area such as this there is no market.

As MickeyD said you can order a Fibre line pretty much from anyone but you will need to pay for the installation and by that i mean trenching and alles.

 

[Lord Farquart]

It is a well thought out strategy. Service the rich areas first, then use the money generated there to roll fiber out in less affluent areas. In other words, roll out there where you know the take-up will be highest. How many people in shacks do you know that will fork out R1800/m for fiber? By the time it gets to less affluent areas, that R1800 will be R900 or less.

BTW, I am also waiting for fiber, but understand what is driving the fiber roll-out. Be patient.

 

[MickeyD]

It is a well thought out strategy. Service the rich areas first, then use the money generated there to roll fiber out in less affluent areas. In other words, roll out there where you know the take-up will be highest. How many people in shacks do you know that will fork out R1800/m for fiber? By the time it gets to less affluent areas, that R1800 will be R900 or less.

BTW, I am also waiting for fiber, but understand what is driving the fiber roll-out. Be patient.

Problem is that the OP is confusing residential grade fibre offerings with business grade solutions. Be assured that most, if not all, major businesses in Rosslyn probably have fibre lines already. But they are not cheap, so it will be out of reach for smaller businesses.

 

[MickeyD]

Before I forget...

Why blame the ISPs???

 

[cyberbob1979]

I think DFA should be on a contact list for the OP to get some Fibre installed... and no - can't blame ISP's for their lack of service in your areas... Everyone has a business plan and model. To roll out Fibre is an expensive passtime - with huge capital investment, so someone has to "carry the company" to do that investment and roll it out wherever it can go next (from a business standpoint) - so yeah, calm your T*ts and order business Fibre from a business provider

 

[Slootvreter]

Before I forget...

Why blame the ISPs???

He wants to be upset at someone.

 

[blowdart18]

Hey OP, here is just one offer from Neotel that you can make use of. Granted you must factor in the costs for the actual install.

 

[MickeyD]

^RAS

 

[ranger]

To All the ISP's and Open Serve:

...

You REFUSE to support any industrial area like Rosslyn, Watloo, Pretoria West, Ga-Rankuwa, ect. The fastest reliable connection we can get is 4Mb ADSL.

You can get up to 600Mbps MetroEthernet in any major city.

If you want it provided 5km or less from an ME exchange, I believe you won't pay for "trenching".

Please don't bother with DFA (they are 99% wholesale-oriented), request proposals from the usual suspects (who offer services across different fibre infrastructure) who play in the retail network services market: at least Telkom Business (or maybe BCX now), IS, Neotel, Vodacom Business.

Unless you want consumer-based prices with consumer-oriented products (no SLA, best effort support etc.), those you might not find in business parks and industrial areas.

 

[RyanPCMR]

Hey wena, stop crying! :crylaugh: