Top UCLA Doctor Denounces HBO's "Chernobyl" As Wrong And "Dangerous"

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A top US medical doctor who treated radiation victims in Chernobyl has criticized HBO’s depiction of the accident and radiation’s health effects as inaccurate and “dangerous.”

“Another error [in HBO’s “Chernobyl”] was to portray the victims as being dangerously radioactive,” UCLA’s Robert Gale wrote in “The Cancer Letter,” a subscription-based newsletter.

Gale has been a world-renowned expert on bone marrow transplantation, which is used to treat radiation victims, since before the Chernobyl accident. After the accident, Gale reached out to Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev, who asked Gale to come “immediately.”

“I spent the next two years mostly in the Soviet Union working with my colleagues at the Institute for Biophysics and Clinical Hospital 6 dealing with a bit more than 200 persons with acute radiation exposures,” Gale writes.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/06/11/top-ucla-doctor-denounces-depiction-of-radiation-in-hbos-chernobyl-as-wrong-and-dangerous/#3bd96e6c1e07
 

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Why does everyone speak with an English accent? Are Soviets the new Romans now?
 

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The firefighters were extremely radioactive as they had ingested radioactive particles and dust into their lungs. He was literally coughing up sloughed off lung pieces while in hospital.

Gorbachenko had radiation burn on his back that was received from the hand of Sashenok, while he carried him out of the building. From his hand ...

Did the show say it was contagious, or is that the authors characterisation of the show?

The author is a lobbyist for the Nuclear industry and the doctor was invited to the USSR and his trip was bankrolled by a Soviet spy, so there is a question of bias in this article.
 

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The firefighters were extremely radioactive as they had ingested radioactive particles and dust into their lungs. He was literally coughing up sloughed off lung pieces while in hospital.

Gorbachenko had radiation burn on his back that was received from the hand of Sashenok, while he carried him out of the building. From his hand ...

Did the show say it was contagious, or is that the authors characterisation of the show?
This is what I find odd, people assume that because a character in the show acts in a certain way or may believe certain things that might not be true that this is the same as the show stating them as fact.
 

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Chernobyl has been attracting disaster tourists, some of whom show little respect: https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-48608713
Tourists visiting Chernobyl must be respectful, the creator of the HBO show about the nuclear disaster there says.

Some people visiting the site in Ukraine, where the world's worst nuclear accident happened in 1986, have been taking pictures smiling at the abandoned power plant - one person posted a picture semi-naked.

Craig Mazin said it's "wonderful" that a "wave" of people have been visiting.

But he's asked people to remember "that a terrible tragedy occurred there".

"Comport yourselves with respect for all who suffered and sacrificed," he wrote on Twitter.
 

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This is what I find odd, people assume that because a character in the show acts in a certain way or may believe certain things that might not be true that this is the same as the show stating them as fact.
Exactly. The show went to great, painstaking effort to get the detail right ( there is a Russian writer on twitter - Slava Malamud who did detailed threads on each episode commenting about the clothing, the number plates, everything, as to how spot on and correct they were).

So to expect that an indoctrinated, loyal citizen and wife of a loyal servant of the Republic would understand radiation and how it works is a fallacy. So many of the ordinary citizens might have acted like it was "contagious" but the scientists and doctors were very specific about the effects of radiation and the risks associated with it.
 

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The author is a lobbyist for the Nuclear industry and the doctor was invited to the USSR and his trip was bankrolled by a Soviet spy, so there is a question of bias in this article.
Ah, thanks. So we can discount academics who promote solar PV and other "renewables" because they're apologists for the "renewables" industry. Got it.
 

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Gorbachenko had radiation burn on his back that was received from the hand of Sashenok, while he carried him out of the building. From his hand ...
Sashenok probably had radioactive dust on his glove or hand, rather than his hand itself being radioactive.
 

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The firefighters were extremely radioactive as they had ingested radioactive particles and dust into their lungs. He was literally coughing up sloughed off lung pieces while in hospital.

Gorbachenko had radiation burn on his back that was received from the hand of Sashenok, while he carried him out of the building. From his hand ...
There's a diffs between exposure and contamination. Both of the examples in the quote are contamination.

If, in the former example, he was coughing up sloughed off lung then he had been inhaling contamination for long enough for tissue necrosis to have occurred. In the latter case: entirely possible that there was highly active dust was on Sashenoks hand

Just speaking as a radiation worker of 20 plus years..
 

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Exactly, it even has a fictional character in it. If I wanted to watch a doccie then I'd watch one. The HBO series was no doccie.
If it was an HBO series on the wonders of not being vaccinated, would you have a different tone.

The firefighters were extremely radioactive as they had ingested radioactive particles and dust into their lungs. He was literally coughing up sloughed off lung pieces while in hospital.

Gorbachenko had radiation burn on his back that was received from the hand of Sashenok, while he carried him out of the building. From his hand ...

Did the show say it was contagious, or is that the authors characterisation of the show?

The author is a lobbyist for the Nuclear industry and the doctor was invited to the USSR and his trip was bankrolled by a Soviet spy, so there is a question of bias in this article.
The firefighters were extremely radioactive as they had ingested radioactive particles and dust into their lungs. He was literally coughing up sloughed off lung pieces while in hospital.
Shashenok was found unconscious in room 604, pinned under a fallen beam, with bloody foam coming out of his mouth.
Hmm...
If blood is coughed up (hemoptysis) after chest trauma or rib injury, this can be a sign of a more serious condition and should be treated by a doctor.
https://www.emedicinehealth.com/collapsed_lung/article_em.htm#when_should_you_call_a_doctor_for_a_collapsed_lung
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_involvement_in_the_Chernobyl_disaster#Vladimir_Shashenok



The author is a lobbyist for the Nuclear industry.
Lobbyist how? He makes the point for nuclear power based on evidence. I haven't really found him making campaign contributions...



the doctor was invited to the USSR and his trip was bankrolled by a Soviet spy, so there is a question of bias in this article.
The same doctor has consulted on a lot of other Nuclear incidents. Where those bankrolled by spies as well?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Peter_Gale
 

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and there i was thinking the movie celebrated the bravery & resolve of the russian people during this crisis.
Respect to their resolve....Resolve they have... no bitching and long why me lamentations -simple...It has to be done, someone has to do it.
 

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Why does everyone speak with an English accent? Are Soviets the new Romans now?
Посмотри на этого чертова идиота, задающего глупые вопросы
 

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It is a docudrama, though I understand the experts view on the matter and their perspective on realism this isn't a documentary. Documentaries don’t sell as well as dramas, even the History Channel knows that.
 
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