Toyota SA contemplating "Baby Fortuner" aka Toyota Rush

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Nope. It's a Terios.
Actually, if you look at the manufacturer's identification plate on the passenger side (driver's side in RHD countries) door frame, you'll see that the Rush is manufactured by Daihatsu in MPV-crazy Indonesia for SUV-mad Philippines."
 

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Actually, if you look at the manufacturer's identification plate on the passenger side (driver's side in RHD countries) door frame, you'll see that the Rush is manufactured by Daihatsu in MPV-crazy Indonesia for SUV-mad Philippines."
Unpack the technical origins of Rush and you’ll discover that it is, in fact, a third-generation Terios, which is hardly surprising as Daihatsu is a wholly owned subsidiary of Toyota. Since the Japanese compact car specialist left the local market in 2015, value-orientated gravel travel has never been quite the same.
From here:
https://www.wheels24.co.za/OffRoad_...-suv-sets-itself-apart-from-the-rest-20180720

Which we've now established is a dud source.. :( So I don't know.
 

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When looked at with its peers, the rationale of this vehicle is very clear. Not quite sure what people were expecting for the money.
I agree, not that it has many peers, one peer I can think about is the BR-V and it beats that one hands down except in the engine department.
 

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Usually I would say its a reasonable option for people who cant afford a new people carrier, but they really needed to put in a different engine, at least something with 200nm
 

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Usually I would say its a reasonable option for people who cant afford a new people carrier, but they really needed to put in a different engine, at least something with 200nm
But why? plenty of cars with way less torque than that on the market that they'll be competing with, Suzuki Vitara, Honda BR-V, Duster, etc. While I agree that they could have done better with that engine there is really no reason to spend more designing a better engine if your peers are not that much ahead of you. They made up for that in other areas, such as comfort safety and convenience features.

Just for perspective, the entry level RAV4 does not have a 200Nm engine and it retails at R382k.
 
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But why? plenty of cars with way less torque than that on the market that they'll be competing with, Suzuki Vitara, Honda BR-V, Duster, etc. While I agree that they could have done better with that engine there is really no reason to spend more designing a better engine if your peers are not that much ahead of you. They made up for that in other areas, such as comfort safety and convenience features.
Its a bit bigger than a few of those, loaded 7 people, it will struggle. Doesnt need to have a 300kw monster, just something like a 1.2 Turbo, which I know toyota does not have, they sticking with NA.
 

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Its a bit bigger than a few of those, loaded 7 people, it will struggle. Doesnt need to have a 300kw monster, just something like a 1.2 Turbo, which I know toyota does not have, they sticking with NA.
I agree, while a better engine would be nice I am just saying they don't really need to give it that much oomph if their competitors are also sleeping on the job. It is a 5 seater, yes it will struggle along with it's competitors. Difference is the Toyota person will have all the comfort and convenience features that the competitor can only dream about while they are busy struggling. They do have a a 1.2T engine, it is the one in their CH-R.

Surprisingly it looks big but it is not that much heavier compared to the others.
 
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