Transport department waiting on High Court for guidance on new driver's licence card

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New driving licence card plan

The Department of Transport (DoT) is waiting for the High Court to provide guidance on the best way to proceed with its plans to introduce new driving licence cards in South Africa.

Transport minister Barbara Creecy recently instructed her department to approach the court to cancel the initial driving licence card tender awarded to French firm Idemia.
 
Why are they still proceeding with something from the late 20th to early 21st century? This is the perfect time to modernise and go digital, e-natis exists. You don't need a little card to indicate if you have a valid drivers license. The ANC is so wrapped up in red-tape and greed.
Cops don't need to see your card, they can check on e-natis, insurance does it already. Only rental agencies are the fools who need a card, and even then they treat an expired card as an invalid license.
The whole point of a smart ID is that everything should be linked to it.
 
Lupus said:
Why are they still proceeding with something from the late 20th to early 21st century? This is the perfect time to modernise and go digital, e-natis exists. You don't need a little card to indicate if you have a valid drivers license. The ANC is so wrapped up in red-tape and greed.
Cops don't need to see your card, they can check on e-natis, insurance does it already. Only rental agencies are the fools who need a card, and even then they treat an expired card as an invalid license.
The whole point of a smart ID is that everything should be linked to it.
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How do you sell a 2c piece of paper and plastic to a government for R100 if you go digital though?

Think of the starving cadres and their children. They need the newest cars and overseas holidays damnit!
 
ToxicBunny said:
How do you sell a 2c piece of paper and plastic to a government for R100 if you go digital though?

Think of the starving cadres and their children. They need the newest cars and overseas holidays damnit!
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I mean sure if you look at it that way. But on a real level, going digital removes quite a few things that the government keeps wanting to say they are knuckling down on, like corruption.
Getting a digital license should be harder than a fake one, though I know paying the officials enough could probably get it done "officially" as well. But making it harder to actually produce, would make it a bit more secure. Once you past your license, they add it to the database.
But this of course would remove the R80 piece of paper for a temporary and the 5 yearly fee for the expired card. So yeah of course the ANC won't make our lives easier.
 
Lupus said:
I mean sure if you look at it that way. But on a real level, going digital removes quite a few things that the government keeps wanting to say they are knuckling down on, like corruption.
Getting a digital license should be harder than a fake one, though I know paying the officials enough could probably get it done "officially" as well. But making it harder to actually produce, would make it a bit more secure. Once you past your license, they add it to the database.
But this of course would remove the R80 piece of paper for a temporary and the 5 yearly fee for the expired card. So yeah of course the ANC won't make our lives easier.
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You also can't have an entity like the DLCA with a management who earn R1.5m a year and makes R50m profit (how the FSCK is a simple card printing entity for government making a profit in the first place?!?!?!)
 
ToxicBunny said:
You also can't have an entity like the DLCA with a management who earn R1.5m a year and makes R50m profit (how the FSCK is a simple card printing entity for government making a profit in the first place?!?!?!)
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Cause the card really only costs R0.02 and we need to pay like R200 and you need people coming in every 5 years, for the "legit" reason of their eyes might've gone down.
I mean the digital card would work even better with AARTO and demerits, plus you could even make it "expire" after a certain period, but you need to pay online and submit your eye tests.
 
Lupus said:
Cause the card really only costs R0.02 and we need to pay like R200 and you need people coming in every 5 years, for the "legit" reason of their eyes might've gone down.
I mean the digital card would work even better with AARTO and demerits, plus you could even make it "expire" after a certain period, but you need to pay online and submit your eye tests.
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For me, it should be a simple thing, and something that would generate revenue for the private sector and drive jobs/growth.

A digital license which you get for a reasonable once off fee, and then every 5 years you are required to go to a licensed optometrist and get an eye test done for say R100, and they upload the results to eNatis and that re-validates your license for another 5 years automagically.
 
ToxicBunny said:
For me, it should be a simple thing, and something that would generate revenue for the private sector and drive jobs/growth.

A digital license which you get for a reasonable once off fee, and then every 5 years you are required to go to a licensed optometrist and get an eye test done for say R100, and they upload the results to eNatis and that re-validates your license for another 5 years automagically.
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100% this, 100% :) plus a small fee of course for re-validating, cause this is government. But this of course would get rid of a lot of useless people at licensing centers.
 
If things were done ethically and without prospects of corruption then this wouldn't have to go through the courts.

This just shows that it's not colour/race but it is the whole anc that is corrupt and just criminalised.
 
Hemi300c said:
If things were done ethically and without prospects of corruption then this wouldn't have to go through the courts.

This just shows that it's not colour/race but it is the whole anc that is corrupt and just criminalised.
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I mean Always Nurturing Corruption? Being legit?
 
Lupus said:
100% this, 100% :) plus a small fee of course for re-validating, cause this is government. But this of course would get rid of a lot of useless people at licensing centers.
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Yeah, but that is the reason it will never happen. How else can some random inconsequential "clerk" lord their power over the citizens if you aren't going to them to get a new license card.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Yeah, but that is the reason it will never happen. How else can some random inconsequential "clerk" lord their power over the citizens if you aren't going to them to get a new license card.
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All hail the clerk lord
 
Lupus said:
Why are they still proceeding with something from the late 20th to early 21st century? This is the perfect time to modernise and go digital, e-natis exists. You don't need a little card to indicate if you have a valid drivers license. The ANC is so wrapped up in red-tape and greed.
Cops don't need to see your card, they can check on e-natis, insurance does it already. Only rental agencies are the fools who need a card, and even then they treat an expired card as an invalid license.
The whole point of a smart ID is that everything should be linked to it.
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You will still need a card if you travel outside the borders of SA as other countries do not have access to eNATIS.

Why not get the same people that make the EU driver's licence cards to make the SA cards? The whole system is up and running and far more secure than the SA system.
 
Cosmik Debris said:
You will still need a card if you travel outside the borders of SA as other countries do not have access to eNATIS.

Why not get the same people that make the EU driver's licence cards to make the SA cards? The whole system is up and running and far more secure than the SA system.
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Sure but that is 1 way to make money as well :) if travelling please ensure you get a travel drivers license card, expires in 1 year
 
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