Trevor Noah slammed for suggesting Israel not defend itself: 'You're downplaying the trauma of millions'

[Cray]

I'm sure they would. Would be a tough road to go down to admit your journalists were willingly or unwillingly aiding and abetting a terrorist organization even if doing it under duress, heads will roll.

Hopefully, there will be an independent review of what happened...

Associated Press chief calls for independent inquiry into Israel bombing of its Gaza office

AP chief Sally Buzbee says she has no evidence from Israeli officials to justify attack on 12-storey building housing international media organisations

www.theguardian.com

Associated Press chief calls for independent inquiry into Israel bombing of its Gaza office

AP chief Sally Buzbee says she has no evidence from Israeli officials to justify attack on 12-storey building housing international media organisations

Again, if it turns out Hamas was, in fact, operating from there then the bombing is understandable.

 

[Vorastra]

Even the Americans are saying it's Apartheid. Surprising.

No ways. MSNBC is saying stupid shet again?
What's surprise.

 

[Vorastra]

I'm sure they would. Would be a tough road to go down to admit your journalists were willingly or unwillingly aiding and abetting a terrorist organization even if doing it under duress, heads will roll.

Edit: AP should thank Israel. They get to save face and denial it all. Israel got to nip that little problem in the bud and scatter all the Hamas cockroaches in the area. Any evidence of collusion or Hamas presence is buried under 50 000 tons of debris and everyone gets to go home. All in all a success.

I mean, it's happened before.

IIRC, in 2014 there were France24 journalists that lied and said that Hamas were 100% not firing rockets from some civilian area.

Then when those journalists got back home to France, they then said that they were lying because Hamas threatened them.

Don't be surprised if the AP and Al Jazeera lie so that they can continue to be allowed to do coverage within Gaza.

 

[grok]

Even the Americans are saying it's Apartheid. Surprising.

See, everything turns out Jan's fault in the end after all..

 

[Vrotappel]

You got it the wrong way around my friend.
Israel has the IDF, and claiming land through its settlers deployment for decades.

Israel has Nukes, Palestine doesn't.

Israel is defending itself against people that want to wipe them of the face of the Earth. 2900 rockets in a couple of days.

Get educated friend.

 

[Vrotappel]

We don't even have evidence that the building was housing Hamas yet but you can attest for a fact that the owner of the building absolutely KNEW he was renting out to Hamas, your intel must be bloody amazing, care to share with us or is classified?

Their is evidence. IDF knows what they are doing.

 

[Vrotappel]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1393992449979260928

 

[Caliph]

American Jews trying to limit US financial aid to Israel.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/israel-democrats-aid.html

 

[Cray]

Their is evidence. IDF knows what they are doing.

So, let's see it then? I know they are a competent organization but they are being directed by Benjamin Netanyahu who has a sketchy reputation considering the charges he is currently facing.

 

[Vorastra]

American Jews trying to limit US financial aid to Israel.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/israel-democrats-aid.html

Must be nice not having to live in Israel.

 

[Vorastra]

So, let's see it then? I know they are a competent organization but they are being directed by Benjamin Netanyahu who has a sketchy reputation considering the charges he is currently facing.

Yeah, Benji specifically came in and told them to bomb a news building purely because it was the news, which would have literally zero benefit.

Are you operating in slow-mode?

 

[Cray]

Yeah, Benji specifically came in and told them to bomb a news building purely because it was the news, which would have literally zero benefit.

It's the overall bombing strategy I am calling into question, do you think airstrikes against a big civilian target don't get approval from the top? Military intel can be wrong, it's up to civilian leaders to make the hard choices about when and where to strike. They knew this would create an uproar, the evidence of Hamas's activity should have been made available right after the bombing was carried out...

Are you operating in slow-mode?

Possibly, only because am giving folks like you a chance to understand what I am saying...

 

[dj2381]

It's the overall bombing strategy I am calling into question, do you think airstrikes against a big civilian target don't get approval from the top? Military intel can be wrong, it's up to civilian leaders to make the hard choices about when and where to strike. They knew this would create an uproar, the evidence of Hamas's activity should have been made available right after the bombing was carried out...


Possibly, only because am giving folks like you a chance to understand what I am saying...

The evidence could be informants for all we know, I doubt very much they would be willing to share that info.

 

[Cray]

The evidence could be informants for all we know, I doubt very much they would be willing to share that info.

So we just have to accept the word of the IDF, shrug, and move on?

 

[Gyre]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1393992449979260928

At this point I think the other Arab countries are waiting for Israel to go into Gaza so they can "intervene".

 

[Gyre]

So we just have to accept the word of the IDF, shrug, and move on?

I think we have to weigh up the benefits of Israel attacking the building and the logic behind it. An attack on the building following a high volumes or missiles being fired at Israel makes it a bit more logically sound than just destroying a building out of spite.

 

[Cray]

I think we have to weigh up the benefits of Israel attacking the building and the logic behind it. An attack on the building following a high volumes or missiles being fired at Israel makes it a bit more logically sound than just destroying a building out of spite.

Have the volume of missiles dropped significantly since the building was destroyed? Destroying a press building, press which may not have always been favourable towards Israel, might be a message in itself...

But yeah, if the building turns out to have been a Hamas HQ, then I think the bombing is justifiable.

 

[dj2381]

So we just have to accept the word of the IDF, shrug, and move on?

I'm not sure where I said that, your mind is already made up anyway so I'm not here to tell you it's ok, it might be a reason that is all.

 

[Pegasus]

Again, the AP has expressly denied that Hamas could have been operating out of that building, the IDF have provided no evidence of such and neither has anyone else, if it turns out the there is solid proof of that I will change my viewpoint, not before.

Israel reportedly gave US evidence of Hamas operating out of building

Israel said it shared “smoking gun” evidence with Biden administration officials that Hamas militants were operating out of a building in the Gaza Strip that housed media outlets.

nypost.com

Google broken your side?

 

[Cray]

I'm not sure where I said that, your mind is already made up anyway so I'm not here to tell you it's ok, it might be a reason that is all.

Cool fair enough, the problem is that if no evidence is provided, we get a situation where the IDF just gets to do what they want with no oversight, military organizations frequently get bad Intel (US Iraq invasion).