Trevor Noah slammed for suggesting Israel not defend itself: 'You're downplaying the trauma of millions'

[TheMightyQuinn]

If they don’t want their homes destroyed then they must stop voting for Hamas or move to Australia like the rest.

There yo go...

 

[Cosmik Debris]

How many rockets did the 10 children launch into Israel?

None of the dead children in Israel launched rockets either. It's not a one sided affair and Hamas is the aggressor.

 

[C4Cat]

There yo go...

Let me guess, you supported the ANC killing civilians in bombings because "if they don’t want to be bombed then they must stop voting for the NP"... am I right?

 

[Bonywasawarrioraway]

Then why doesn't the greatest military in the world send soldiers to the site to identify and take out the militants responsible instead of bombing an entire area and killing innocent civilians?

Because the source of the rockets is usually well within enemy lines. A ground incursion would result in many more dead and take so long that the rocket launchers would be long gone by the time your forces got there. I know you think your suggestion is less aggressive but it isn't

Also as explained in my post, they are not bombing an area but a precise location from which the rockets were fired. The question is what are the innocent civilians doing there?

Consider this. You are a peaceful palestinian. One day as you go about your business you notice hamas rocket launchers setting up to shoot rockets into israel. Since its been happening for decades you know damn well that the israelis will reply with artillery or air strike. What would you do? If you stay there to be killed you are the dumbest muthhafirker on earth. The only plausible explanation for the civilians is that they are being prevented from leaving by hamas so that there can be innocent victims to protest

or the israelis can't shoot straight.

Its not really rocket science. (pun intended)

btw IDF is not the greatest military in the world or were you being sarcastic?

 

[Thugscub]

All the keyboard warriors are out in force again. Any of you so called experts even been to the Middle East?

Not fekkin one?

Remember the silly twats who roared off to be human shields?
The first missile hit.
They all shat in their pants.
Ran home screaming for their mommies.
So to our heroes here I want to see your face when a batshit sand squirrel blasts a missile at you.

 

[Looney]

In one of the videos you can hear the camera man shout Allahu Akbar. It just shows how they celebrate martyrdom.

 

[C4Cat]

Also as explained in my post, they are not bombing an area but a precise location from which the rockets were fired. The question is what are the innocent civilians doing there?

That's incorrect. Israel has stated they bombed the building because Hamas has offices there, not because it was the source of the rockets

 

[C4Cat]

Consider this. You are a peaceful palestinian. One day as you go about your business you notice hamas rocket launchers setting up to shoot rockets into israel. Since its been happening for decades you know damn well that the israelis will reply with artillery or air strike. What would you do? If you stay there to be killed you are the dumbest muthhafirker on earth. The only plausible explanation for the civilians is that they are being prevented from leaving by hamas so that there can be innocent victims to protest

Consider this. You are a peaceful Palestinian family living in an apartment block. Unbeknownst to you, Hamas has an office in the same building, a few floors down. You see no rockets and know nothing about what they are up to. Next thing you're told to take what you can and get out of your home. What do you take? Where do you go? Next thing your home, the homes of your neighbours are destroyed.

 

[Looney]

Consider this. You are a peaceful Palestinian family living in an apartment block. Unbeknownst to you, Hamas has an office in the same building, a few floors down. You see no rockets and know nothing about what they are up to. Next thing you're told to take what you can and get out of your home. What do you take? Where do you go? Next thing your home, the homes of your neighbours are destroyed.

Wtf you talking about. Firing a missile isn't a silent thing. Of course civilians in the building would hear if a missile was launched.

Your point is completely null and void.

Try again.

 

[Thugscub]

Noah is a twat. Nothing more nothing less.
Now Trevor go and study real comedians.
Faulty Towers.
Black Adder.
Monty Python.
Spike Milligan.
The Two Ronnie's.
One more wafer thin chocolate biscuit.

/pukes at the mention of Trevor.

 

[C4Cat]

Wtf you talking about. Firing a missile isn't a silent thing. Of course civilians in the building would hear if a missile was launched.

Your point is completely null and void.

Try again.

I'm talking about the fact that missiles were not launched from that building. As Israel said, they bombed it because Hamas had an office there, not because it was the source of the missiles. Try again, this time without your incorrect assumptions about what happened

 

[Cosmik Debris]

To answer both you and c4cat

Here's how it works. The israelis use what is known as counterbattery radar to track the incoming rockets and from their trajectories determine the position from which they were fired.

The next step is to attack that position either by artillery or airstrike in order to eliminate the source of the incoming rockets. The purpose is to stop the rockets, not kill people by the truckload. This is regarded in military circles as a defensive measure

hamas knows this. Israel has followed this model for some time.
If hamas either fired their rockets from uninhabited areas or evacuated non combatants before firing there would not be "civilian casualties.

Instead there always are and they always seem to include children.

The only logical conclusions are : 1. The israelies can't shoot for shirt, or, 2. hamas deliberately fire from places that will result in "civilian" casualties when the counter battery fire arrives. This gives them ammunition to scream "victim" and gain international support for them and condemnation for israel.

There is much argument as to which of these two is actually happening.

The fact that israel has installed the hugely expensive "Iron Dome" anti missile/rocket defence system when they could have just bought more shells to fire at Gaza speaks volumes.

Short version, the children fired no rockets. A great many people think they are kept close to the firing positions as a kind of human shield. The israeli practice of counter battery fire is so well known that if hamas had any intention of protecting peacefull palestinians they would shoot from where there were none.

Or maybe the israelis just cant shoot straight.

Exactly. Those civilians and kids are forced into the firing line to gain world sympathy against the Israeli's. Yet nobody calls Hamas out for not evacuating kids from their artillery positions - Which Hamas themselves will have evacuated knowing the strike is coming. Cowards, terrorists and callous. Anything to achieve their agenda.

It reminds me how the SADF in cross border raids, despite months of observation, air photo's, infiltration, intelligence gathering, interrogation and planning only ever managed to hit creches, hospitals, civilian settlements and refugee centres, managing to find and remove huge arms caches from very well defended creches, hospitals, civilian settlements and refugee centres.

 

[Looney]

All the keyboard warriors are out in force again. Any of you so called experts even been to the Middle East?

Not fekkin one?

Remember the silly twats who roared off to be human shields?
The first missile hit.
They all shat in their pants.
Ran home screaming for their mommies.
So to our heroes here I want to see your face when a batshit sand squirrel blasts a missile at you.

Ya, I'm a born and bred Israeli. When I was a kid, and I remember this so clearly, I was playing with this chick, siren goes off, we ran to the underground bomb shelter. Ya, not a pleasant experience.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Then why doesn't the greatest military in the world send soldiers to the site to identify and take out the militants responsible instead of bombing an entire area and killing innocent civilians?

The strikes are targeted. Hamas evacuates the targeted areas and herds women and children in knowing they will be killed in the targeted strike to gain sympathy from people like you that don't understand how military targeted counter strikes work.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Actually the targeted high rise buildings were not the sites from which the rockets were fired, so that's just BS.

So you're in the know of the Hamas rocket sites and the Israeli targeting co-ordinates for those sites. And the hugely expensive counter targeting by the Israeli's is inaccurate? Any basis for your assertions?

 

[Bonywasawarrioraway]

Actually the targeted high rise buildings were not the sites from which the rockets were fired, so that's just BS.

No, those are buildings known to house either hamas leadership or ammunition / explosives dumps. This is after significant escalation. Counter battery fire is pretty much always the first step. This is logical as one wants the rockets to stop.
There is no twenty line thesis than can explain everything going on there. I was explaining the children.

Those buildings are empty (or should be) because of roof knocker warning projectiles. Notice how the cameras videoing their destruction are focussed on there BEFORE they are hit? Are they randomly filming buildings hoping one will get hit?

Also the cries of Allahu akbar (sp?) following the strike. Thats a celebration mate. more ammo for the media circus

 

[krycor]

I don’t have a “side” btw, just don’t agree with the one is right and other wrong.. war is always grey especially when you occupy and oppress people as was done in SA except there it’s worse.

People who push this narrative were supporters of the apartheid state too and/or don’t question things rationally ie brainless.

My favorite comment in this thread is about Palestinians being terrorist because when the nats did the same to our native population, the anc was also called a terrorist org. I disagree with that BS. If you actively oppressing the population the retaliation is justified. Also the oppressing force is the terrorist.. just because America supports them doesn’t mean they right. Americans supported the Nats until it was in feasible without backlash.. I reckon the same is coming in this conflict.. after which the people on the ground will have to fix things. You know that terrorist orgs you guys claim will have to do a peaceful gov thing like here though not without a mass exodus as the hate there is way worse.

Right now you can see the disinformation marketing campaign the Israelis have started on YouTube. You will see ads of Israeli kids crying and civilians being sad or injured.. oooo white kids crying, it’s worth gold!! They must be trying to get ahead of public pushing government to diplomatically force them to back down.

 

[Looney]

I'm talking about the fact that missiles were not launched from that building. As Israel said, they bombed it because Hamas had an office there, not because it was the source of the missiles. Try again, this time without your incorrect assumptions about what happened

Do you really think civilians would not see a group of Hamas militants roaming around the building. Wow, you really don't know what you are talking about. You really have no clue.

Out of interest, are you middle eastern?

 

[grok]

Consider this. You are a peaceful Palestinian family living in an apartment block. Unbeknownst to you, Hamas has an office in the same building, a few floors down. You see no rockets and know nothing about what they are up to. Next thing you're told to take what you can and get out of your home. What do you take? Where do you go? Next thing your home, the homes of your neighbours are destroyed.

Now imagine you're a peaceful Israeli family living in an apartment block. Unbeknownst to you, Hamas is preparing to fire rockets at your building..

Claiming victimhood is so easy. Try figure out who fired first (sic. ) that's usually how the grownups determine guilt..

 

[Cosmik Debris]

You need to pay attention. They don't bomb entire areas. They are precise and actually warn civilians of impending attacks.

Have you actually watched footage of Israel destroying a building? Ever wondered why the streets around it are quiet and Palestinians are standing around filming before the strike? Have you noticed the ambulances in the area?

Israel warns civilians before they destroy a building with what is known as ''roof knocking''. A non-lethal missile/projectile will first be fired at a targeted building to warn civilians that there is an incoming, lethal attack. They even go as far as to use cellphone messages to warn people in the area of an imminent attack. Of course the window is condensed as they want to catch the Hamas targets, so that does lead to the unfortunate civilian casualties who may not get out in time.

Considering Israel brings down entire buildings, the casualties are low.

This video is a good example of Palestinians being aware of a targeted building, calmly pre-filming it with ambulances running around. Notice how quiet the streets are immediately around the building?

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/nchktk

Same building, different angle. Notice how precise the missiles are as well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/ncbil7

Absolutely precise targeting at the foundations to take the building down.