I don’t have a “side” btw, just don’t agree with the one is right and other wrong.. war is always grey especially when you occupy and oppress people as was done in SA except there it’s worse.
People who push this narrative were supporters of the apartheid state too and/or don’t question things rationally ie brainless.
My favorite comment in this thread is about Palestinians being terrorist because when the nats did the same to our native population, the anc was also called a terrorist org. I disagree with that BS. If you actively oppressing the population the retaliation is justified. Also the oppressing force is the terrorist.. just because America supports them doesn’t mean they right. Americans supported the Nats until it was in feasible without backlash.. I reckon the same is coming in this conflict.. after which the people on the ground will have to fix things. You know that terrorist orgs you guys claim will have to do a peaceful gov thing like here though not without a mass exodus as the hate there is way worse.
Right now you can see the disinformation marketing campaign the Israelis have started on YouTube. You will see ads of Israeli kids crying and civilians being sad or injured.. oooo white kids crying, it’s worth gold!! They must be trying to get ahead of public pushing government to diplomatically force them to back down.
Israel has never said Palestinians are terrorists. They don't paint all Palestinians with the same brush. They have always said Hamas are terrorists. There is a very big difference.
Do you really think civilians would not see a group of Hamas militants roaming around the building. Wow, you really don't know what you are talking about. You really have no clue.
Imagine you're living happily in your apartment building in Cape Town. Unbeknownst to you the AWB is planning a violent overthrow of the SA government and has a weapons store in your building. Instead of going in to arrest the traitors and confiscate the weapons, the government decides to bomb the entire building. But they give you warning, so that's OK!
It can never be used to plan an attack from and the warning is clear - Use any building to attack Israel from and it will be destroyed. Do you understand deterrence?
They are warned to evacuate, not exactly when the strike will occur, as said in the post. It still doesn't change the sentiments expressed in the post regarding the trauma inflicted
Consider this. You are a peaceful Palestinian family living in an apartment block. Unbeknownst to you, Hamas has an office in the same building, a few floors down. You see no rockets and know nothing about what they are up to. Next thing you're told to take what you can and get out of your home. What do you take? Where do you go? Next thing your home, the homes of your neighbours are destroyed.
And if that happened WHO would you blame? The people who defended themselves or the ones who opened a terrorist headquarters in YOUR building thus making you a target.
Imagine you're living happily in your apartment building in Cape Town. Unbeknownst to you the AWB is planning a violent overthrow of the SA government and has a weapons store in your building. Instead of going in to arrest the traitors and confiscate the weapons, the government decides to bomb the entire building. But they give you warning, so that's OK!
Nope, I'm a South African Jew. I lived in Israel for 2 years but that's the extent of my experience there
We are not talking about the AWB, I'm really not interested in analogies.
A Jew that defends Hamas who would have no issue blowing you up and you spew sh#t about the only country that would always accept you with open arms (Aliyah). And help you start your life there if you ever decided to. Very very interesting.
I really am not interested in discussing this with you further.
All the keyboard warriors are out in force again. Any of you so called experts even been to the Middle East?
Not fekkin one?
Remember the silly twats who roared off to be human shields?
The first missile hit.
They all shat in their pants.
Ran home screaming for their mommies.
So to our heroes here I want to see your face when a batshit sand squirrel blasts a missile at you.
Exactly. You deny your enemy logistic facilities where they do planning and preparation. It also makes it clear that any other building used for those purposes will be targeted.
Consider this. You are a peaceful Palestinian family living in an apartment block. Unbeknownst to you, Hamas has an office in the same building, a few floors down. You see no rockets and know nothing about what they are up to. Next thing you're told to take what you can and get out of your home. What do you take? Where do you go? Next thing your home, the homes of your neighbours are destroyed.
Rubbish. Any family will know where Hamas is and all the people there have to support Hamas anyway. Freedom of thought and affiliation is not an Islamic concept.
And rocket batteries don't take 10 minutes to set up and prepare. Why don't the families complain to Hamas that their homes will be targeted and tell them to set up their batteries in unpopulated areas?
Noah is a twat. Nothing more nothing less.
Now Trevor go and study real comedians.
Faulty Towers.
Black Adder.
Monty Python.
Spike Milligan.
The Two Ronnie's.
One more wafer thin chocolate biscuit.
So you just made a list of comedy the Brits made. You do know there is a huge difference between comedy in America and that of the UK. It is very seldom that the dry sarcastic humor and often self deprecating black humor hits home in the states and vice versa with US comedy. It different styles and culture.
Calling noah a twat probably makes you one as well for not knowing the difference. Go figure.
Either one if done well is cool, each one has it's place.If you were to take Robin Williams, Eddie murphy's raw, Andrew dice clay(Yeah you probably never heard of the dice man before, a comedian that sold out stadiums like Madison square garden around the same time as guys like ACDC, metallica ect).
Take trevor that uses a blended comedy style, which is a mix of south African and American style comedy especially with the segments between the scenes which there are plenty of youtube, his style is actually pretty good.More often then not he does hit the mark pretty well with his style.
Like I said each country have their own styles, no one is better then the other, take for example my family and modern family, two completely different takes on comedy surrounding family life. Married with children is a good example of American style comedy , mind your language is an example of a uk style comedy.That said every one is entitled to like the one or the other, but dissing a style because you don't like it, what are you 5 ?
You have to ask the question, why aren't these "civilians" letting the IDF know when Hamas move into their building to setup a point of attack knowing their homes will be destroyed?
Exactly. Those civilians and kids are forced into the firing line to gain world sympathy against the Israeli's. Yet nobody calls Hamas out for not evacuating kids from their artillery positions - Which Hamas themselves will have evacuated knowing the strike is coming. Cowards, terrorists and callous. Anything to achieve their agenda.
It reminds me how the SADF in cross border raids, despite months of observation, air photo's, infiltration, intelligence gathering, interrogation and planning only ever managed to hit creches, hospitals, civilian settlements and refugee centres, managing to find and remove huge arms caches from very well defended creches, hospitals, civilian settlements and refugee centres.
It reminds me of the Rhodesian raid on the Nyadzonya camp, Operation Eland. Internationally decried as an attack on a refugee camp. According to them only refugees women and children were killed.
In the photos of the mass graves many of the bodies can clearly be seen to be wearing ammunition bandoliers. ZANLA documents captured later indicated that over a thousand armed cadres had been killed.
You have to ask the question, why aren't these "civilians" letting the IDF know when Hamas move into their building to setup a point of attack knowing their homes will be destroyed?
Imagine you're living happily in your apartment building in Cape Town. Unbeknownst to you the AWB is planning a violent overthrow of the SA government and has a weapons store in your building. Instead of going in to arrest the traitors and confiscate the weapons, the government decides to bomb the entire building. But they give you warning, so that's OK!
Nope, I'm a South African Jew. I lived in Israel for 2 years but that's the extent of my experience there
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