Trevor Noah slammed for suggesting Israel not defend itself: 'You're downplaying the trauma of millions'

C4Cat

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Can you genuinely not see that a ground invasion with tanks and troops no less, would be infinitely more destructive and kill far more innocent people? seriously!!
I genuinely can't see it. I mean the US managed to track down Bin Laden, sent in a strike team and took him out. Civilian casualties? Almost none. I get that he wasn't in a densely populated area but still, I've no doubt the Israeli military could pinpoint and strike specific individuals without all the destruction they are currently engaged in.
 

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The hatred goes back to the time of Muhammad when the Jews were banished and slaughtered because of their alleged treachery, which eventually led to his untimely death at the hands of a Jewish woman.

The Palestinian situation plays in nicely to brand Jews as the Great Evil where every wrong in the world is attributed to them.

There are other muslims around the world being persecuted but those conflicts are largely ignored because this one gives them the platform to vent their anger for taking out their beloved Prophet.
death at the hand of a jewish woman? The man fell ill and died.
 

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I genuinely can't see it. I mean the US managed to track down Bin Laden, sent in a strike team and took him out. Civilian casualties? Almost none. I get that he wasn't in a densely populated area but still, I've no doubt the Israeli military could pinpoint and strike specific individuals without all the destruction they are currently engaged in.
gaza is a tiny high density built up area with a large population. the area of abbotabad where bin laden was is quite different. The israeli military and the us military are quite different. The two simply cannot be compared. The force to space ratio in such a raid would rival that of the western front in ww1. It would be a blood bath in a very real sense. International condemnation would be far far worse. Take a look at the surgical strike attempted by the us in somalia in 1993 for an example of what I mean.
 

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I genuinely can't see it. I mean the US managed to track down Bin Laden, sent in a strike team and took him out. Civilian casualties? Almost none. I get that he wasn't in a densely populated area but still, I've no doubt the Israeli military could pinpoint and strike specific individuals without all the destruction they are currently engaged in.

It took the US military ten years to find and kill Bin Laden in an isolated compound. In a rapidly evolving conflict like in Gaza with assets being moved around and hidden constantly, how recent does intelligence of a location have to be?

I take it you have military experience and have been part of operational planning in order to make the comment you did?
 

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@3Gee my man @FrankCastle confidently portrays this as factual:
After he gets called out, then he wants to know what is the correct information.
This is what happens when you talk about things that you do not have enough knowledge on.

Tell me whether this is true or not?

Muhammad was poisoned by a Jewish woman, following the conquest of Khaibar, where he took Safiyah as a wife, and ordered the torture and beheading of her husband Kinana, the chief of the Jews at Khaibar. Narrated Anas bin Malik: A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it.

 

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Tell me whether this is true or not?

Muhammad was poisoned by a Jewish woman, following the conquest of Khaibar, where he took Safiyah as a wife, and ordered the torture and beheading of her husband Kinana, the chief of the Jews at Khaibar. Narrated Anas bin Malik: A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it.


His death certificate under

Cause of Death : UNKNOWN
 

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I genuinely can't see it. I mean the US managed to track down Bin Laden, sent in a strike team and took him out. Civilian casualties? Almost none. I get that he wasn't in a densely populated area but still, I've no doubt the Israeli military could pinpoint and strike specific individuals without all the destruction they are currently engaged in.

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Looks exactly like the densely populated built up places in gaza hamas operate from.
 

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Looks exactly like the densely populated built up places in gaza hamas operate from.
Am confused, a densely populated area would deter most militaries from a bombing strike for fear of hitting innocents... The US could easily have wiped out Obama's compound with minimal collateral damage yet they chose to send in the Seals. They did this because they didn't know for certain Bin Laden was there and to avoid innocent deaths In another country, if only the IDF had such restraint.

Israel are hitting targets that are far more difficult to destroy without collateral damage yet they choose the bombing option time and again...
 

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death at the hand of a jewish woman? The man fell ill and died.
Sunan Abi Dawud 4512

Narrated Abu Hurairah:
So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Messenger of Allah ate of it and the people also ate.

He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died.

So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done?

She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you. The Messenger of Allah then ordered regarding her and she was killed. He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar. This is the time when it has cut off my aorta.
 

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@3Gee my man @FrankCastle confidently portrays this as factual:

After he gets called out, then he wants to know what is the correct information.

This is what happens when you talk about things that you do not have enough knowledge on.

So, according to YOU actual authentic sources are unreliable?
 

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Am confused, a densely populated area would deter most militaries from a bombing strike for fear of hitting innocents... The US could easily have wiped out Obama's compound with minimal collateral damage yet they chose to send in the Seals. They did this because they didn't know for certain Bin Laden was there and to avoid innocent deaths In another country, if only the IDF had such restraint.

Israel are hitting targets that are far more difficult to destroy without collateral damage yet they choose the bombing option time and again...

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It took the US military ten years to find and kill Bin Laden in an isolated compound. In a rapidly evolving conflict like in Gaza with assets being moved around and hidden constantly, how recent does intelligence of a location have to be?

I take it you have military experience and have been part of operational planning in order to make the comment you did?

When did you gain military experience?
 

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Post #1282:



When did you gain military experience?
Experience doesn't always equal competence...as you have demonstrated on a few occasions.

Maybe point out the parts of my post that you have issue with rather than just expecting everything to take your word for things because you have "military experience"?

Strange how someone who frequently moans about threads being "made about me" is also super quick to paint himself as an expert because of "experience"...
 
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Experience doesn't always equal competence...as you have demonstrated on a few occasions.

Maybe point out the parts of my post that you have issue with rather than just expecting everything to take your word for things because you have "military experience"?
You're too young. You don't know.
 
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