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[Suspect99]

The modern-day "Palestinians" represent a mixture of local inhabitants and many other groups of Muslims brought from Bosnia, the Balkans, and the Caucasus by the Turks in the 16th to 19th centuries; and from the Sudan, Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon by the British in the 20th century.

From whom are the modern Palestinians descended? | GotQuestions.org

From whom are the modern Palestinians descended? Are modern Palestinians descendants of the ancient Philistines and/or Canaanites?

www.gotquestions.org

Now, can you answer their claim to land seeing the Jews were in Israel over 2000 years ago? The inconvenient question you're purposely avoiding?

"Many Arabs are descendants of Ishmael; but, since the land of Canaan was promised to the sons of Jacob, Arabs have no biblical claim to the land of Palestine.

Regardless of definitions and precise lineage, Palestinians, like all human beings, are ultimately descended from the same original mother and father (Genesis 3:20). Human beings have often forgotten this when constructing cultural, geographic, and political lines."


This is an extract from your source. I'd have expected something more scientific from you

 

[azbob]

Does living somewhere a long time ago make you entitled to a place? Asking for a group of friends.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

There is no historical proof to your claim of Jews living there 2000 years ago, your claim is purely biblical.

Secondly , Jews never occupied every inch of the land.

Oh, the Talmud, Bible, Quran, the Greeks and the Romans are all wrong about that then?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Does living somewhere a long time ago make you entitled to a place? Asking for a group of friends.

Ask the ANC. They think so.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

"Many Arabs are descendants of Ishmael; but, since the land of Canaan was promised to the sons of Jacob, Arabs have no biblical claim to the land of Palestine.

Regardless of definitions and precise lineage, Palestinians, like all human beings, are ultimately descended from the same original mother and father (Genesis 3:20). Human beings have often forgotten this when constructing cultural, geographic, and political lines."


This is an extract from your source. I'd have expected something more scientific from you

Then provide your own scientific source refuting mine. Why am I the only one required to provide sources and when I do, they are not good enough when it doesn't suit the opponents narrative?

 

[3Gee]

Oh, the Talmud, Bible, Quran and the Romans are all wrong about that then?

I'm done here , as stated earlier , the Pro Israel Spin Doctors has lost the plot.


Hopefully there will not be another Gaza war and the parties can reach some sort of agreement in the not to distant future and all sit around a table enjoying Humus.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Secondly , Jews never occupied every inch of the land.

True. And neither did anyone else as it was sparsely populated before the Turks and then British moved the people who now claim to be "Palestinians" in, starting in the 16th century.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I'm done here , as stated earlier , the Pro Israel Spin Doctors has lost the plot.

Yes, run when you have no argument at all and are proven wrong with multiple sources. I take it this means you're never going to answer my question regarding the Palestinian claim to the land?

 

[Suspect99]

Then provide your own scientific source refuting mine. Why am I the only one required to provide sources and when I do, they are not good enough when it doesn't suit the opponents narrative?

Beacause you claim to use facts and logic only, but now are basing your claims on the bible . strange.

But if you insist heres a more scientific article . https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...m-biblical-canaanites-lives-modern-arabs-jews

The researchers also compared the ancient DNA with that of modern populations and found that most Arab and Jewish groups in the region owe more than half of their DNA to Canaanites and other peoples who inhabited the ancient Near East—an area encompassing much of the modern Levant, Caucasus, and Iran.

 

[Bonywasawarrioraway]

There is no historical proof to your claim of Jews living there 2000 years ago, your claim is purely biblical.

Secondly , Jews never occupied every inch of the land.

Wrong. The conquest of the levant and the vexatious presence there of the jews was recorded in nausiating detail by the romans.

 

[Spizz]

I'm done here , as stated earlier , the Pro Israel Spin Doctors has lost the plot.


Hopefully there will not be another Gaza war and the parties can reach some sort of agreement in the not to distant future and all sit around a table enjoying Humus.

I tried to have a discussion with you, but the questions you were faced with did not suit your agenda so were ignored.

Ah well, hopefully one day you and those like you will realise that you are part of the problem and only then will the situation change.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Beacause you claim to use facts and logic only, but now are basing your claims on the bible . strange.

I referenced the Bible? Chapter and verse I referenced please?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

But if you insist heres a more scientific article . https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...m-biblical-canaanites-lives-modern-arabs-jews

What claim does having a particular DNA have to being the first religion and culture on the land?

 

[Cray]

Seems you forgot how to do that in post #1424:

Didn't forget, most normal people can scroll back to a post number....

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Didn't forget, most normal people can scroll back to a post number....

It's on the same page. Otherwise I would have quoted it. Are you criticising the way I use the forum now instead of commenting on posts?

 

[Cray]

It's on the same page. Otherwise I would have quoted it. Are you criticising the way I use the forum now instead of commenting on posts?

Page? I'm not scrolling back all that way. You can post it here too using the quote function.

For most people, a post number is sufficient when dealing with something a number of pages back.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

For most people, a post number is sufficient when dealing with something a number of pages back.

Your point regarding the discussion in the thread? Or is this about me?

 

[Suspect99]

I referenced the Bible? Chapter and verse I referenced please?

Regardless of definitions and precise lineage, Palestinians, like all human beings, are ultimately descended from the same original mother and father (Genesis 3:20). Human beings have often forgotten this when constructing cultural, geographic, and political lines."

From the source that you provided. Did you actually read the source?

 

[Desig]

Hamas started off as peaceful , normal people like all of us who got fedup of standing for hours at checkup points , watching woman forced to give birth at check points , watching their plantations burned by settlers , forced off their land .......


Should the EFF decide to expropriate your home as previously owned black land which was misleadingly sold to white immigrants , are you simply going to pack up and leave ?

Lol peaceful and normal? At what point did they turn on their own people and become millionaires and billionaires whilst using their people as human shields?

 

[Grant]

Before the first rocket from Hamas (09-10 May 2021).

May 1948?