Trevor Noah slammed for suggesting Israel not defend itself: 'You're downplaying the trauma of millions'

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FrankCastle said:
Who said they committed any crime, but they do pose a possible threat.
Remember how Hamas caught the Israelis napping during the Intifadas?
They won't make the same mistake.

You haven't answered my question - who should be allowed to return and where should they come back to?
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They should be allowed free movement within Israel, free to buy their own property and settle where they wish.
 
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sand_man said:
That's kind of how a Jewish homeland works.
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Just so long as you realize the implicit racism involved, especially when creating it involved expelling a whole lot of non-Jewish people.
 
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Cosmik Debris said:
Going to Israel for a Jew is not automatic residency. I know of people that have been trying to help a Jew emigrate to Israel for years. The Israeli government requires the same as any other country does for immigration by Jews.
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Not automatic no, they can be denied for various reasons but they have a route to residency that is denied to Palestinians.
 
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Cray said:
Not automatic no, they can be denied for various reasons but they have a route to residency that is denied to Palestinians.
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For very good reason. Israel is seen as a Jewish homeland and have nothing to do with Palestinians. Just like you and I cannot be citizens of most countries.

And the obviously elephant in the room that the Palestinians associate with terrorists.
 
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rietrot said:
For very good reason. Israel is seen as a Jewish homeland and have nothing to do with Palestinians. Just like you and I cannot be citizens of most countries.

And the obviously elephant in the room that the Palestinians associate with terrorists.
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Not all Palestinians, If Israel offered a path to residency for Palestinians and excluded those with known terrorist links I would have zero issues with it.
 
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Cray said:
Not all Palestinians, If Israel offered a path to residency for Palestinians and excluded those with known terrorist links I would have zero issues with it.
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I don't even know what you are on about. Many Palestinians do have residency in Israel. How did that happen if no path exists?
 
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I don't even know what you are on about. Many Palestinians do have residency in Israel. How did that happen if no path exists?
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Am talking about Palestinian refugees in the West Bank and Gaza, they have no right to apply for residency within Israel.
 
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Cray said:
Just so long as you realize the implicit racism involved, especially when creating it involved expelling a whole lot of non-Jewish people.
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900,000 Jews were kicked out of Arab countries forcibly last century and have no right of return.

Palestinians on the other hand left Israel for a short time while waiting for it to be destroyed by invading armies, before planning to return and claim the whole country for themselves.
 
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Cray said:
Not all Palestinians, If Israel offered a path to residency for Palestinians and excluded those with known terrorist links I would have zero issues with it.
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Would you offer a path of residency to people who support the the genocide of your people and the destruction of your state?
 
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Cray said:
Just so long as you realize the implicit racism involved, especially when creating it involved expelling a whole lot of non-Jewish people.
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21% of Israel's population is non-Jewish. There more opportunities for Arab Israeli's living in Israel 2021 than there are for middle aged white males living in the 27 year young "democracy" that is South Africa. Think about that for a second...

Israel is the most demographically diverse country in the Middle East. The only racism practiced in the Middle East is by her neighours. How many Jews living outside of Israel in the Middle East?

Here, let me help you, apologies in advance for the source....

 
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Grant said:
Would you offer a path of residency to people who support the the genocide of your people and the destruction of your state?
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Did you miss the part where I clearly said that I had no issue with excluding people with terrorist links? If the applicants pledged to live in Israel peacefully and have no criminal record then what is the issue? Or do you regard every Palestinian as genocidal?
 
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Cray said:
Did you miss the part where I clearly said that I had no issue with excluding people with terrorist links? If the applicants pledged to live in Israel peacefully and have no criminal record then what is the issue? Or do you regard every Palestinian as genocidal?
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What you may or may not take issue with is irrelevant
 
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21% of Israel's population is non-Jewish. There more opportunities for Arab Israeli's living in Israel 2021 than there are for middle aged white males living in the 27 year young "democracy" that is South Africa. Think about that for a second...
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I have zero issue with the treatment of Arabs living within Israel, and they are treated pretty well, it's all the refugees that were expelled and forced to live in an occupied territory that are the problem..

Are you suggesting that because Israel treats some Arabs within Israel well that they should get a free pass for marginalising all the others in Gaza and the West Bank?
 
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Grant said:
What you may or may not take issue with is irrelevant
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Then why bother replying to me in the first place if you don't want my opinion? Unless you are just out to win some internet points with a gotcha comment? All good if that is true but at least I will know not to waste too much time bothering to reply to you in good faith.
 
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