Trevor Noah slammed for suggesting Israel not defend itself: 'You're downplaying the trauma of millions'

[FrankCastle]

21% of Israel's population is non-Jewish. There more opportunities for Arab Israeli's living in Israel 2021 than there are for middle aged white males living in the 27 year young "democracy" that is South Africa. Think about that for a second...

Israel is the most demographically diverse country in the Middle East. The only racism practiced in the Middle East is by her neighours. How many Jews living outside of Israel in the Middle East?

Here, let me help you, apologies in advance for the source....

https://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ForeignPolicy/Issues/Pages/Jewish-refugees-expelled-from-Arab-lands-and-from-Iran-29-November-2016.aspx

And yet we keep hearing about "ethnic cleansing"

 

[Grant]

Interesting interview

 

[Vorastra]

Is that sort of moral judgement based on race defensible in your mind?

lol, feck off with this garbage.

What race is that exactly.

 

[Cray]

lol, feck off with this garbage.

Well considered argument from you as always.

 

[sand_man]

I have zero issue with the treatment of Arabs living within Israel, and they are treated pretty well, it's all the refugees that were expelled and forced to live in an occupied territory that are the problem..

Are you suggesting that because Israel treats some Arabs within Israel well that they should get a free pass for marginalising all the others in Gaza and the West Bank?

The fundamental point is there was and is the opportunity for Arabs and Israeli's to co-exist side by side (the large Arab/Israeli population is evidence of this) but there is no compromise when it comes to issues of national security.

Israel doesn't get a free pass though do they? Every move they make is scrutinized to the nth degree and they held to incredibly high standards re rules of engagement. They get lambasted at every UN sitting and account for the vast majority of UN resolutions and condemnations passed.

 

[Vorastra]

Well considered argument from you as always.

Continue reading.
There hasn't been a single argument you've won with me yet lol

 

[Cray]

The fundamental point is there was and is the opportunity for Arabs and Israeli's to co-exist side by side (the large Arab/Israeli population is evidence of this) but there is no compromise when it comes to issues of national security.

I agree, there shouldn't be, but I also think a blanket policy of "All Palestinians are genocidal terrorists" isn't right either. Other countries do background checks for immigrants, but Israel excludes an entire population with a blanket ban because of fears that they all could be terrorists?

Israel doesn't get a free pass though do they? Every move they make is scrutinized to the nth degree and they held to incredibly high standards re rules of engagement. They get lambasted at every UN sitting and account for the vast majority of UN resolutions and condemnations passed.

And how much notice do they actually take when big daddy US is there to Veto anything that could actually result in any sanction against Israel?

 

[Cray]

Continue reading.
There hasn't been a single argument you've won with me yet lol

Even if you do say so yourself....

 

[Vorastra]

The fundamental point is there was and is the opportunity for Arabs and Israeli's to co-exist side by side (the large Arab/Israeli population is evidence of this) but there is no compromise when it comes to issues of national security.

Israel doesn't get a free pass though do they? Every move they make is scrutinized to the nth degree and they held to incredibly high standards re rules of engagement. They get lambasted at every UN sitting and account for the vast majority of UN resolutions and condemnations passed.

@Cray trying to pull the race card just shows, once again, how little he knows.
Then again we already knew that as soon as he jumped in supporting terrorist sympathisers.

 

[Vorastra]

Even if you do say so yourself....

I do. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Cray]

@Cray trying to pull the race card just shows, once again, how little he knows.
Then again we already knew that as soon as he jumped in supporting terrorist sympathisers.

1/10

 

[Vorastra]

1/10

84 pages of you making excuses for them.

 

[sand_man]

84 pages of you making excuses for them.

Almost time for a ceasefire?

 

[konfab]

@Cray trying to pull the race card just shows, once again, how little he knows.
Then again we already knew that as soon as he jumped in supporting terrorist sympathisers.

I don't think Cray really supports Hamas and their actions, but him like most progressives are useful idiots for Hamas by not being on the side of Israel.

The political reality is that Hamas is gaining control over "Palestine". Look at what is happening:

The smiling visage of a keffiyeh-clad Yasser Arafat. The yellow, rifle-bedecked flags of his movement. The names, etched in black, of those who died in its service.

For decades, al-Amari has been a stronghold of Fatah, the secular and nationalist party that emphasizes diplomacy as its answer to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. But in recent days, the tableau in the camp has shifted: Green flags mark the entrance and graffiti to match emblazons the walls with a single word: Hamas.

“They’ve given strength to the whole Palestinian cause,” said Mohammed Khadier, 16, as friends nodded in enthusiastic agreement. “We consider Hamas our leader now.”

https://archive.is/I6eOg

Hamas is not interested in any form of Israel existing, and to be honest neither is the PLA.

Look what is under the control of the PLA, the education system, and see what they teach their children.

A photo from the exhibition posted on the Al-Surra Elementary School’s Facebook page show a Palestinian boy wearing a ribbon with the Palestinian flag and the word “Palestine” on it. The boy is preparing to “execute” another child dressed as an Israeli soldier. He points a toy M16 rifle at the Israeli soldier, who kneels with his arms raised in surrender. A second photo shows “the Israeli soldier” lying on the ground after being “executed” by the smiling Palestinian child.

A report in the Palestinian daily Al-Ayyam described the exhibition at the Al-Surra Elementary School, south of Hebron, as “a cultural art exhibition… for Palestinian Prisoner’s Day.” [Al-Ayyam, April 21, 2016]

The way the Palestinian Authority educates its children will determine if there can be peace in the future. PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas repeatedly professes to foreign audiences his desire for peace between Israel and a Palestinian state living side by side. However, with the prevalence of this type of hate and terror promotion, PA schools themselves are a great impediment to peace.

https://en.europe-israel.org/2016/1...y-schools-use-plays-to-teach-murder-and-hate/

The solution cannot come from any current authority in Palestine TBH. It honestly will have to be more like what happened in Japan after WW2. A coalition of the US, Israel and the gulf states would need to take control over the entire government.

 

[ShaunSA]

Almost time for a ceasefire?

Have MyBB'ers finally solved the ME crisis?

 

[azbob]

I don’t understand why you guys want the violence to end? Are you not aware that peace in the Middle East is one of the signs of the end of the world? Let them keep fighting, it doesn’t affect us. Stopping would.

 

[Vorastra]

Have MyBB'ers finally solved the ME crisis?

Hamas aren't firing rockets.

 

[Mephisto_Helix]

900,000 Jews were kicked out of Arab countries forcibly last century and have no right of return.

Palestinians on the other hand left Israel for a short time while waiting for it to be destroyed by invading armies, before planning to return and claim the whole country for themselves.

Imagine the terrorist sympathisers here took note of your post and told everyone why its OK to dismiss those 900k Jews

 

[Cosmik Debris]

They should be allowed free movement within Israel, free to buy their own property and settle where they wish.

Can the Israelis do the same in Syria, Egypt, Jordan and the other places the so called Palestinians originate from?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

When did you once criticize them in this thread? Haven't you said that telling only one side of the story is a lefty tactic?

The Israelis were not the aggressors in the latest violence, which this thread was about. Therefore no criticism in this thread. If you read other threads, you will see I am one of few people that will call the Jews out on their dishonest appropriation of anti Semitic status and the dishonest monopoly on tragedy they maintain for own advantage.