Trevor Noah slammed for suggesting Israel not defend itself: 'You're downplaying the trauma of millions'

[sand_man]

I don't know, maybe not drop bombs in civilian populated areas? What is your solution, keep killing innocent people and shrugging their shoulders saying "Whoops, my bad..."

Are they indiscriminately bombing civilian populated areas or are they bombing Hamas military assets purposely embedded within the civilian population? BIIIIIIG difference.

Are Hamas, by building tunnels under schools, firing rockets off of the roofs of apartment blocks and school playgrounds not culpable themselves of human rights violations in endangering the lives of the civilians who elected them to office?

Which other army engaged in conflict pre warns the enemy/target of a pending assault, either through roof knocking, personal telephone call or messages?

Should Israel simply cease and desist retaliating against the 1000's of missiles launched at her civilians? What country, in the history of the world, stood by idly while being attacked?

Israel is held to unrealistically high standards in the face of extreme duress. No other country's actions would be questioned under similar circumstances.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

You don't think killing civilians as part of their bombing campaign is worthy of criticism?

Hey, you chuck a rocket at me, you get a bomb back. Address the original problem.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I appreciate and understand your concern for the Palestinian children.

Leftist tactic. Show suffering children from one side only to get support and outrage.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

There would be fake shock & outrage while smiling inside followed by quietly slinking off until the next issue that requires their outrage.

Correct. Known Muslim tactic:

Taqiyya;
Tactical deceit for the purposes of spreading Islam. This is what you see Muslims doing at press conferences after terror attacks when they pretend to denounce killers.

 

[Cray]

Are they indiscriminately bombing civilian populated areas or are they bombing Hamas military assets purposely embedded within the civilian population?

Are Hamas, by building tunnels under schools, firing rockets off of the roofs of apartment blocks and school playgrounds not culpable themselves of human rights violations in endangering the lives of the civilians who elected them to office?

Very much so, have stated many times that Hamas are the scum of the earth and are just as responsible for bloodshed and deaths in Gaza.

 

[airborne]

What happens if you are an innocent Palestinian who doesn't support Hamas yet your home gets bombed hy the IDF and all your family is killed.

How is that fair, it would seem that's rather a similar situation to an Israeli family getting taken out by a Hamas rocket.

Neither family deserves to die.

Two evils, one side perhaps just less than the other.

I honestly can't see what the point is taking sides because the protagonists on either side are full of sht.

 

[FrankCastle]

Oh no, far from it. And you may not have realised but your comment works for both sides, and hence the continuation of this situation into perpetuity. How many years have you been taking sides and how many years have you being saying the same thing? You are blaming Israel, others are blaming Palestinians. So of course you don't know, there is no answer from one point or the other. If you want to save people, we have to drop the politics and that is something that no-one seems to be prepared to do. Yourself included. Sitting here arguing about who is worse ffs. They are all a bunch or bastards except as far as I can see there is only one side using people as pawns and hoping that people like you take up their fight. Very noble as it may be. But it's what they want. They want people to blame Israel for everything because it suits their end goal. And the end goal is not about the people of Palestine living in peace and prosperity, it's about the destruction of Israel. The Palestinians could be living in perfect peace and harmony tomorrow if their "leaders" allowed it. The world would flock to a peaceful Gaza and WB where the aid was not controlled by terrorists. But no, because good people like you are being fooled into thinking there is only one side who is the problem.

So yes, I know what the solution is. It's a peaceful Palestinian leadership with their cards on the table. The Israeli's want lasting and meaningful security. That's all.

The only other solution on this current path is the destruction of Israel. And I wonder how the people blaming Israel for the continuation of this mess would feel if Israel was hit with a nuke or a dirty bomb and millions died? Is the destruction of one people a good price to pay for the freedom of another?

I keep asking our muslim friends here what is an acceptable solution and I hear crickets - not even a 2 state solution, or going back to 1948 borders - nothing.
Silence means complete destruction/ Jewish exodus to where they came from but they can't/won't say it.

It's actually a worse position than what Israel currently does.

 

[3Gee]

Screw Hamas missile's , the power of social media , proven on this very thread

 

[Suspect99]

I keep asking our muslim friends here what is an acceptable solution and I hear crickets - not even a 2 state solution, or going back to 1948 borders - nothing.
Silence means complete destruction/ Jewish exodus to where they came from but they can't/won't say it.

It's actually a worse position than what Israel currently does.

I answered. You even replied to me IIRC.
Why are you claiming there's only silence now?

 

[Suspect99]

I answered. You even replied to me IIRC.
Why are you claiming there's only silence now?

Nvm. I answered vrotappel who asked the same question

 

[FrankCastle]

Nvm. I answered vrotappel who asked the same question

And what did you suggest?

 

[FrankCastle]

Screw Hamas missile's , the power of social media , proven on this very thread

Don't think Israel fears anything - even the truth.

 

[FrankCastle]

Israel's incursion and building of settlements is not to ethnically cleanse as many are wrongly informed into believing.
Their strategy is based on suppressive fire. It's the only way to remove the thought that Israel will be destroyed and a land of Palestine be established in it's place.

 

[Oldfut]

I see that that, back in SA, the main peanuts from the Anglican church and the Jewish top man are having a slanging match. Three cornered religious scrap?

 

[maq_]

Israel's incursion and building of settlements is not to ethnically cleanse as many are wrongly informed into believing.
Their strategy is based on suppressive fire. It's the only way to remove the thought that Israel will be destroyed and a land of Palestine be established in it's place.

Breaking the Silence

Breaking the Silence is an organization of veteran soldiers who have served in the Israeli military since the start of the Second Intifada and have taken it upon themselves to expose the Israeli public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories. We endeavor to stimulate public...

www.breakingthesilence.org.il

These are stories from actual Israeli soldiers... maybe you should have a read to educate yourself

 

[Grant]

Breaking the Silence

Breaking the Silence is an organization of veteran soldiers who have served in the Israeli military since the start of the Second Intifada and have taken it upon themselves to expose the Israeli public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories. We endeavor to stimulate public...

www.breakingthesilence.org.il

These are stories from actual Israeli soldiers... maybe you should have a read to educate yourself

Would Hamas fighters dare to do the same, or would they face execution for speaking out?

 

[maq_]

Would Hamas fighters dare to do the same, or would they face execution for speaking out?

You asking a hypothetical question to try and derail from the fact that there are Israeli soldiers who are speaking out about the atrocities that they have committed.

Why not just admit that Israeli are committing serious human rights offences and taking away the dignity and rights from fellow human beings...

 

[SlinkyMike]

Would Hamas fighters dare to do the same, or would they face execution for speaking out?

Very likely but it does not change anything about the truth.

 

[Cray]

Would Hamas fighters dare to do the same, or would they face execution for speaking out?

Why don't you guys ever contrast the behaviour of the IDF to other armed forces throughout the world? If you have to compare the IDF to Hamas in order to justify their dodgy behaviour, that in itself is a problem for a country that touts itself as an enlightened, Western democracy.

 

[rambo919]

Why don't you guys ever contrast the behaviour of the IDF to other armed forces throughout the world? If you have to compare the IDF to Hamas in order to justify their dodgy behaviour, that in itself is a problem for a country that touts itself as an enlightened, Western democracy.

What the hell would be the point of comparing the IDF with anyone other than their direct enemies? This makes no sense whatsoever.