Trevor Noah slammed for suggesting Israel not defend itself: 'You're downplaying the trauma of millions'

[Cosmik Debris]

No reply in English with typed characters? Just emoji's? Do your parents know you're on this forum?

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

What would you consider to be acceptable Israeli firepower?

 

[FrankCastle]

Imagine you're living happily in your apartment building in Cape Town. Unbeknownst to you the AWB is planning a violent overthrow of the SA government and has a weapons store in your building. Instead of going in to arrest the traitors and confiscate the weapons, the government decides to bomb the entire building. But they give you warning, so that's OK!

Nope, I'm a South African Jew. I lived in Israel for 2 years but that's the extent of my experience there

Or the AWB tells me they're going to set up a launch pad on the roof of my residential apartment, so I can either evacuate or take my chances with my 6 kids. Tough decision since Israel might use their advanced radar to detect where my rocket comes from and respond with pin point accuracy to take out my launch pad and possibly the entire building. The smart residents have packed up whilst cursing the AWB as they descent the shaky flight of stairs.

 

[FrankCastle]

You have to ask the question, why aren't these "civilians" letting the IDF know when Hamas move into their building to setup a point of attack knowing their homes will be destroyed?

Simple really.

 

[GrootVoet]

The simple fact is the Palestine's are poking the lion and sometimes they get clapped. They poking because they need attention for their cause.. This conflict has been going on for 1000's of years, not going to change soon.

Regarding Trevor, he's trying to be clever but he's not. People are not laughing at his jokes anymore now he trying to reinvent himself as a political commentator.

 

[FrankCastle]

To answer both you and c4cat

Here's how it works. The israelis use what is known as counterbattery radar to track the incoming rockets and from their trajectories determine the position from which they were fired.

The next step is to attack that position either by artillery or airstrike in order to eliminate the source of the incoming rockets. The purpose is to stop the rockets, not kill people by the truckload. This is regarded in military circles as a defensive measure

hamas knows this. Israel has followed this model for some time.
If hamas either fired their rockets from uninhabited areas or evacuated non combatants before firing there would not be "civilian casualties.

Instead there always are and they always seem to include children.

The only logical conclusions are : 1. The israelies can't shoot for shirt, or, 2. hamas deliberately fire from places that will result in "civilian" casualties when the counter battery fire arrives. This gives them ammunition to scream "victim" and gain international support for them and condemnation for israel.

There is much argument as to which of these two is actually happening.

The fact that israel has installed the hugely expensive "Iron Dome" anti missile/rocket defence system when they could have just bought more shells to fire at Gaza speaks volumes.

Short version, the children fired no rockets. A great many people think they are kept close to the firing positions as a kind of human shield. The israeli practice of counter battery fire is so well known that if hamas had any intention of protecting peacefull palestinians they would shoot from where there were none.

Or maybe the israelis just cant shoot straight.

Time to come Israel will be able to take out Hamas militants with smart weapons and almost zero civilian loss.
Propaganda machine will have to find fuel elsewhere.

 

[FrankCastle]

The Arab world or Iran? Who aren’t even Arabs.

Muslim world who a take a disliking to not only Zionism but anything Jewish.
Been like this since 632.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Time to come Israel will be able to take out Hamas militants with smart weapons and almost zero civilian loss.
Propaganda machine will have to find fuel elsewhere.

The world still complained when they took that Sheik in a wheelchair out with a targeted missile. Double standards by the lefties is well known.

 

[wizardofid]

The simple fact is the Palestine's are poking the lion and sometimes they get clapped. They poking because they need attention for their cause.. This conflict has been going on for 1000's of years, not going to change soon.

Regarding Trevor, he's trying to be clever but he's not. People are not laughing at his jokes anymore now he trying to reinvent himself as a political commentator.

Trying to be clever ? Dude I bet he would run circles around you in any debate. Because he is from south Africa he can't be well educated and smarter or rather your words cleverer. People seem to be able to quickly dish out critique on some one they know from ''TV'' and magically assume the person is like that in real life.

I just go onto youtube and actually watch the other stuff about him not related to the daily show or stand up comedy.There is a few book interviews that actually shows how uniquely qualified he is to kick your ass.If you actually watch all the content on him.The daily show is satire it isnt a comedy, some seem to think it is a comedy show it is not it is satire. While it falls under the same umbrella of performing arts, there is a huge difference between satire and comedy.You would think people would know this.Oh well, go figure.

That man has a head on his shoulders, no doubt, and has his own brand and style of comedy and satire.To be honest the man has probably accomplished more then whatever you were able to do in your or my pitiful existence.

Read his book then try and judge him.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Trying to be clever ? Dude I bet he would run circles around you in any debate. Because he is from south Africa he can't be well educated and smarter or rather your words cleverer. People seem to be able to quickly dish out critique on some one they know from ''TV'' and magically assume the person is like that in real life.

I just go onto youtube and actually watch the other stuff about him not related to the daily show or stand up comedy.There is a few book interviews that actually shows how uniquely qualified he is to kick your ass.If you actually watch all the content on him.The daily show is satire it isnt a comedy, some seem to think it is a comedy show it is not it is satire. While it falls under the same umbrella of performing arts, there is a huge difference between satire and comedy.You would think people would know this.Oh well, go figure.

That man has a head on his shoulders, no doubt, and has his own brand and style of comedy and satire.To be honest the man has probably accomplished more then whatever you were able to do in your or my pitiful existence.

Read his book then try and judge him.

You have no clue who @GrootVoet really is but can guarantee that Noah is smarter by watching rehearsed YT videos?

Methinks we have a sycophantic Noah Fanbois here....

 

[KleinBoontjie]

He is so used to making money from Apartheid and racism jokes, that when he saw they call out Israel for being an Apartheid state, that he came running to cash in.

 

[Tokolotshe]

MyBB'ers complicating the ME crisis one keyboard warrior post at a time

FTFY

 

[Tokolotshe]

Am curious, how would you spot a Hamas militant carrying a concealed weapon and out of uniform?

Easy: It's the one carrying rockets or rocket parts, or the one that makes the Hunchback of Notre Dame seem like Prince Charming.

Valid point. It's excactly this and using childern and other people as a human shield that eventually made Hamas even untasteful for the more liberal humanitarian groups and researchers. They now only have support from the more extremists.

 

[Tokolotshe]

A concealed rocket launcher battery capable of targeting Israeli cities?

To put my Hunchback of Notre Dame chirp into context, these aren't the things you buy at your store around the corner, easily hidden, the type of things some people buy for the 5th of Nov:

 

[Vorastra]

FTFY

 

[C4Cat]

A Jew that defends Hamas who would have no issue blowing you up and you spew sh#t about the only country that would always accept you with open arms (Aliyah). And help you start your life there if you ever decided to. Very very interesting.

Liar. I haven't defended Hamas at all. **** you for even thinking that. I'm entitled to criticise Israel policy just like every other Jew is entitled to.

 

[ForceFate]

He is so used to making money from Apartheid and racism jokes, that when he saw they call out Israel for being an Apartheid state, that he came running to cash in.

Jokes about apartheid don't even make a large percentage of his personal content. Main source of his jokes were Julius, JZ, stereotypes, impersonations as well as his own personal life journey (he cannot avoid mentioning apartheid here).

 

[Messugga]

So it’s fine for them to launch 1000’s of rockets at us but we must take it up the arse? Skrew that. Israel doesn’t give a fig what you or the rest of the world think. They will defend themselves by any means necessary. Mark my words.

Are you an Israeli?

 

[Cray]

Yes, to leftist expat South Africans who helped create the African paradise they no longer live in.

Keep telling yourself that...

 

[Cray]

A concealed rocket launcher battery capable of targeting Israeli cities?

We are talking about a city block that was home to Hamas offices, not rocket launchers...