Trump dominates 2024 GOP presidential nomination straw poll at Turning Point USA summit

Unhappy438

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Yet another fsckwad that is more intelligent and more successful than you will ever be.

That makes you very many many many levels below fsckwad doesn't it?

Very touchy over your orange man hey peggie boy?

I mean Malema and Tekashi69 are probably more successful than all of us here but that doesnt really mean much does it?
 

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Neither party has someone electable.

The Democrats had a decent party until they got infested with Progressives and their brain rot.
They have nobody good left.

The Republicans pretty much only have De Santis who is any good, but he needs a few more years before he can run.

I agree with you, it feels like both parties are pushing freakshows to the front
 

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Its not who they push, its who gets voted for in their primaries. To get to the front of the democrats or republicans you just need to get the US public to vote for you. Its not like the ANC where they pick the leaders, you just vote for the party. This is all down to an American public who are only educated in netflix, ticktock, etc. They seldom read books anymore, and are just getting sillier. America is getting what they deserve TBH. Still some very astute people in the US of A but the average is become a more and more shallow uneducated person who knows more about the lives of celebs than the first thing about economic policy.
 

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Worse than Joe? lol..

Believe it or not, there are actually people who are happy with rampant crime rates, a divided country, high inflation, instability, collapsing economies, chaos, breaking down current international relations, siding with Russia and China and oppressing the majorities of a country. There are still people who believe that America should not be a great country and that America should not come first for its own citizens.
 

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Yet another fsckwad that is more intelligent and more successful than you will ever be.

That makes you very many many many levels below fsckwad doesn't it?
Wow, the burns are getting more juvenile by the minute. We'll be at "my daddy can beat up your daddy" by COB at this rate.
In other news, the KZN ANC showed overwhelming support for Jacob Zuma in the ANC elective conference in KwaZulu-Natal this weekend..
Exactly.
 

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In other news, the KZN ANC showed overwhelming support for Jacob Zuma in the ANC elective conference in KwaZulu-Natal this weekend..
Almost as if elections for government officials should take into account geographic areas to make sure that you don't have one highly populated geographical area determine the electoral outcome for the entire country.
 

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Yet another fsckwad that is more intelligent and more successful than you will ever be.

That makes you very many many many levels below fsckwad doesn't it?
He is actually a massive failure.
Took a huge loan from daddy and hasn't really made a return on that. He just loses other people money for them.
He would be richer if he had just dumped that money in unit trusts.
 

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Indeed. He lost all that money, became a billionaire again without help from his dad, lost it again, become a billionaire again, a few times and then POTUS.

How did you do?
Just stay at failure?
I don't try and fk my own daughter so already winning. I Even pay my own tax.

Trump is not a billionaire. Its smoke and mirrors, he is a conman who just keeps rolling.
 

Nerfherder

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Yes of course. Keep telling yourself these things to ease the pain of your failures.
I'm totally ok with my own failures.

Until I completely fk up an entire country I think I don't have to compare myself to Trump
 

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I'm totally ok with my own failures.

Until I completely fk up an entire country I think I don't have to compare myself to Trump
He never did that though, although Biden seems to be on track to accomplish that?
No need to make up stuff. He has more than enough actual issues. Why not just say you hate his personality and move on?
 

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He never did that though, although Biden seems to be on track to accomplish that?
No need to make up stuff. He has more than enough actual issues. Why not just say you hate his personality and move on?
By every metric Trump was a terrible president. I have no love for Biden but he just inherited many problems from Trump, he hasn't been good at resolving them either.
There is no need to make stuff up, it just can't be said enough how bad a leader and person he is.
 

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I don't try and fk my own daughter so already winning.

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By every metric Trump was a terrible president. I have no love for Biden but he just inherited many problems from Trump, he hasn't been good at resolving them either.
There is no need to make stuff up, it just can't be said enough how bad a leader and person he is.
By what metric? Their economy was doing better than ever until Covid hit. You are making stuff up if you can't substantiate them.
He was elected because people got fed up with the political shell game. People voted for him because they hoped he would be able to bring about some much needed change. The rampant TDS that resulted from his election, did fracture the US to an extent. Although the faux pearl clutching was amusing to watch.
Passing Bidens failures unto Trump you can then just as easily pass those onto Obama who was in power longer. So no he isn't a bad leader per se and actually quite charismatic. His moral character is dubious, but about on par with many billionaires. You don't look towards a president to be a father figure.
 

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By what metric? Their economy was doing better than ever until Covid hit. You are making stuff up if you can't substantiate them.
He was elected because people got fed up with the political shell game. People voted for him because they hoped he would be able to bring about some much needed change. The rampant TDS that resulted from his election, did fracture the US to an extent. Although the faux pearl clutching was amusing to watch.
Passing Bidens failures unto Trump you can then just as easily pass those onto Obama who was in power longer. So no he isn't a bad leader per se and actually quite charismatic. His moral character is dubious, but about on par with many billionaires. You don't look towards a president to be a father figure.
What change did they want ?

Pretty much every thing was on the up since Obama came to power: https://www.npr.org/2018/09/12/646708799/fact-check-who-gets-credit-for-the-booming-u-s-economy

America is at its most divided and not only did he fuel that but he exploited it.
 

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What change did they want ?
You want a spoon fed answer instead of actually paying attention to sentiment in the US the last decade or so after Bush? It's not a simple answer that can be given in a few sentences.
There was a recent NYT article that covered some of the basics though.


- Just press esc while the page is loading to bypass the paywall

Pretty much every thing was on the up since Obama came to power: https://www.npr.org/2018/09/12/646708799/fact-check-who-gets-credit-for-the-booming-u-s-economy

America is at its most divided and not only did he fuel that but he exploited it.
That article is kinda meaningless. More so since it's one of those "fact check" types. Nothing "began" under Obama. He followed after a recession, so it's a given that numbers will improve. It's the same false argument of saying Trump's economic policies were a failure by including the layoffs due to Covid. And the same with the false praises of Biden's numbers post Covid.

This short summary article highlights how some of the numbers improved from Obama

America was divided during Obama years as anyone that followed Pew Research will know. It wasn't divided due to Trump's behaviour per se, but rather others reaction to his surprise election, fueled largely by their media machine. I'd go so far as to say most non -Americans have an extremely warped perception of what their actual sentiments are, largely due to our news diet being very slanted. Surprisingly Obama was a let down for many Americans who had hoped he would be the great unifier. Likewise Trump was a let down for many for failing to drain the swamp. If it wasn't for Covid and the large anti-trump vote he would have been re-elected. Now he's verging on being to old, afaic , but he'd still win against Biden/Harris given that the grass did not in fact turn out greener as voters had hoped.
 

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Trump Proposes Constitutional Amendment So He Can Run As His Own Vice President in 2024

LOL, he's still butthurt that Pence wouldn't help him steal the election? What a child.
 
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