Trump dominates 2024 GOP presidential nomination straw poll at Turning Point USA summit

[Kieppie]

covfefe anyone?

I'm partial to TRUNALIMUNUMAPRZURE myself

 

[Flanders]

covfefe anyone?

Oh yes the typo incident. And the reaction to it. Months went by and it was still a thing. Dude holds onto a guard rail while walking down a ramp...

25th! 25th!

But Reverend Kane and his antics? Nothing. Crickets.

Bizarre.

 

[Dave]

Hi Dave,

Center is actually a good political view to have, however things are going so far left in the last decade that the scales need much more right to get balanced.

But there's tipping the scale a little to the right and then there's mental XRW like a number of Trump's mad supporters.

Trump shouldn't be allowed to be president of his local social club, and definitely not anywhere near any position with any actual power.

 

[Kieppie]

But there's tipping the scale a little to the right and then there's mental XRW like a number of Trump's mad supporters.

Trump shouldn't be allowed to be president of his local social club, and definitely not anywhere near any position with any actual power.

Tipping to the right? Shouldn't be "allowed"? Curious choice of words.
He's actually a moderate policy wise, and more progressive than what Obama was when he was elected. So besides his character there's really no reason why people can't vote for him if they so choose.

 

[Dave]

Tipping to the right? Shouldn't be "allowed"? Curious choice of words.

You noticed that's 2 separate statements? I agree that the west has tilted a bit far left and could do with a small balance to the centre (ie a move right).

Separately, Trump is a dangerous narcissist who only acts in his own interests, he shouldn't be allowed to run again, that is, the Republicans should choose someone else, unfortunately the Reps have too many deranged people in the party and it's likely they won't think rationally.

 

[Kieppie]

You noticed that's 2 separate statements? I agree that the west has tilted a bit far left and could do with a small balance to the centre (ie a move right).

Yes. Which is why I included him being a moderate, I can guarantee you many here would not even be aware of this fact, as that would shift it right only slightly.

Separately, Trump is a dangerous narcissist who only acts in his own interests, he shouldn't be allowed to run again, that is, the Republicans should choose someone else, unfortunately the Reps have too many deranged people in the party and it's likely they won't think rationally.

He's not dangerous. He didn't start any wars and the economy was doing well until Covid hit. Despite some economist predicting a massive recession should he be elected.

I'd argue he is a narcissist, as are most upper management people, and in the sense that he believes he, and he alone, can fix all the country's problems. That trait is shared by many a politician no matter their political affiliation. However it's his other personality traits that's blinding people more so than policy. I don't believe you should look at a leader as a moral true north, but rather that they do what is best for the country. He did that for the most part. Even the latest bill by the Biden administration to bring chip manufacturing to the US is a very Trumpian thing to do.

What I find truly strange is that he was well liked by the general public before he announced his candidacy, probably since they adore TV celebrities. Yet for some reason throwing his hat in the ring as a Republican magically change this perception. I never liked him as a person, but I appreciate him exposing this false duplicity. Still don't understand why people went ape the way they did. After the news cycle during his 4 years this perception is basically unchangeable no matter whether it was factual or not.

I mean to this day most people don't have a clue why people voted for him, when the answer was actually quite obvious. Instead they simply paint them as stupid, ironically exposing their own stupidity. So I wouldn't mind if he ran again purely to see if he can manage to do what he pledged. Basically whittling down the dead wood in government and civil service. Presidents tend to be freer when they are in their second term and don't have to worry about re-elections. A career politician is unlikely to affect much change, they are too bogged down by allegiances to other members or factions. Perhaps this is simply an impossible task?

Ironically it's in the Democrats best interest to have Trump run as that will mobilise their base and the anti-Trump vote, the last one being responsible for Biden's win.

 

[Moto Guzzi]

Zombieland="The streets of Philidelphia" Youtube it is, new President required. Cannot believed what I saw.

 

[C4Cat]

He's actually a moderate policy wise, and more progressive than what Obama was when he was elected.

Can you give more details in this?

 

[R13...]

Oh yes the typo incident. And the reaction to it. Months went by and it was still a thing. Dude holds onto a guard rail while walking down a ramp...

We was doing Zuma comparisons. Keep up. And it should be 5th! 5th!

 

[Flanders]

We was doing Zuma comparisons. Keep up.

Not the comment you responded to that I quoted.

And it should be 5th! 5th!

Nope. 25th. uNfiT fOR oFFicE! REEEE!

 

[Gyre]

That makes you a "conservative" in US politics

Being a liberal and a conservative vastly depends on who you disagree with on a certain day, even a number of obvious conservatives have been called liberals on his forum for one unique view.

With konfab for example, we disagree on a lot of issues but we both vehemently oppose hidings, physical discipline and corporal punishment

 

[Mekon]

You noticed that's 2 separate statements? I agree that the west has tilted a bit far left and could do with a small balance to the centre (ie a move right).

Separately, Trump is a dangerous narcissist who only acts in his own interests, he shouldn't be allowed to run again, that is, the Republicans should choose someone else, unfortunately the Reps have too many deranged people in the party and it's likely they won't think rationally.

And the democrats don't have deranged people? Sure

 

[Kieppie]

Can you give more details in this?

Go look at an article written before people lost their collective mind. Now add to this the typical leanings of this outlet. Compare this to modern day where some people claim he is a far-right nazi and it's easy to see why people legitimately believe the far-left have gone insane.

Donald Trump Is Actually a Moderate Republican

When it’s time to vote, Republicans usually choose an “establishment” candidate to lead their party: George H.W. Bush in 1988, Bob Dole in 1996, George...

slate.com

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

That makes you a Ultra Right Wing in US politics

FIFY

 

[Kieppie]

Being a liberal and a conservative vastly depends on who you disagree with on a certain day, even a number of obvious conservatives have been called liberals on his forum for one unique view.

With konfab for example, we disagree on a lot of issues but we both vehemently oppose hidings, physical discipline and corporal punishment

Although the two aren't mutually exclusive. Liberal is more your central band overlapping both the left and right spectrum.

 

[Gyre]

Although the two aren't mutually exclusive. Liberal is more your central band overlapping both the left and right spectrum.

It's hard to follow who is what, I've been called a "libtard" so many times in my life

 

[Kieppie]

It's hard to follow who is what, I've been called a "libtard" so many times in my life

In your life or only the last few years? If it's the latter its if one agrees with anything perceived "woke".
The word wasn't used nearly as much a decade ago, but has since become quite common. As have may other derogative terms associated with perceived political affiliation.