Trump or Harris?

Trump or Harris?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 287 57.2%

  • Kamala Harris

    Votes: 215 42.8%
  • Total voters
    502
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Slckrck said:
How do you consider Trump to be the more sane option when he is untrustworthy? He is not just a liar, but a blatant one at that.

Integrity, even the façade of it is important to assess someone's sanity no?

And if so, how can you trust him to represent you as a servant?

Just curious as to the logic.
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Like I said, he's certainly not the most ideal candidate, but I relate more to the right than I do the left. In fact I would regard myself as being bang in the middle, but I think Trumps focus on supporting businesses and making money for the US is far more appealing to me than Kamala telling us what her pronouns are. That's ultimately better for the world and for us in South Africa.
 
Avbob se stoep said:
If RFK wins, which probably won't happen, he has a bigger chance to unite the country than both of them in my opinion, most republicans respect RFK. Overall his policies are liberal, so the Democrats probably won't cry too much about it either.
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That's never going to happen. He's essentially the Conspiracy Theory Party of the US. Every time he's speaking at something other than a random podcast, you can see the struggle in his eyes to jus stay on point with party-specific messaging and not dive into the rabbit hole and start rambling on about vaccines.
 
NightShift said:
Like I said, he's certainly not the most ideal candidate, but I relate more to the right than I do the left. In fact I would regard myself as being bang in the middle, but I think Trumps focus on supporting businesses and making money for the US is far more appealing to me than Kamala telling us what her pronouns are. That's ultimately better for the world and for us in South Africa.
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How is American isolationism good for SA? By focusing on reducing globalisation that inherently reduces SA's potential market. He undoubtedly is not a fan of bilateral agreements that is beneficial to the partner nations and as such would not have favourable outcomes for SA as a trading partner.

Also it is not beneficial for global trade asa whole to have one administration that is so against it as a principle.

Another issue I have with your assessment of him, is that he is not a conservative, his seemingly favourable attitude towards business, hasn't proven to be the case with his past practices in business. He undermined small business regularly by non payment and frivolous disputing.

Idk as a liberal centrist, everything points to him not being trustworthy or actually beneficial to me as a South African or me as a capitalist. There's more money to be made with a democrat in the US and I don't care about American social issues enough to ignore that.
 
Slckrck said:
How is American isolationism good for SA? By focusing on reducing globalisation that inherently reduces SA's potential market. He undoubtedly is not a fan of bilateral agreements that is beneficial to the partner nations and as such would not have favourable outcomes for SA as a trading partner.

Also it is not beneficial for global trade asa whole to have one administration that is so against it as a principle.

Another issue I have with your assessment of him, is that he is not a conservative, his seemingly favourable attitude towards business, hasn't proven to be the case with his past practices in business. He undermined small business regularly by non payment and frivolous disputing.

Idk as a liberal centrist, everything points to him not being trustworthy or actually beneficial to me as a South African or me as a capitalist. There's more money to be made with a democrat in the US and I don't care about American social issues enough to ignore that.
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The world is in the mess because of the US's post ww2 foreign affairs/economical policies. Every major hot spot is linked to decisions taken by the US and by extension the west.

When the US starts living on the same planet as the rest of the world then they won't be such a problem.
 
BCoetzer said:
Donald Trump or Kamala Harris?
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Can't vote. There is no option for neither!

Harris is just another socialist in disguise, no better than Biden. So because of that she is definitely NOT on my list.

Trump is not by any means a good alternative, - his track records already show he is unsuitable to be the leader of the Western World.

So what now? Vote for the lessor of two weavils?
 
Trump, as mad and as unhinged he is, its better than a woman that was mostly holding Bidens hand so he wouldn't fall off the stage ,

but then again, too much power is in the American presidents hand, maybe some of it needs to be taken away,
 
Geoff.D said:
Can't vote. There is no option for neither!

Harris is just another socialist in disguise, no better than Biden. So because of that she is definitely NOT on my list.

Trump is not by any means a good alternative, - his track records already show he is unsuitable to be the leader of the Western World.

So what now? Vote for the lessor of two weavils?
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Biden is a Conservative, he got stick for not being Left enough. There are no Leftist parties in the US, Dems are Centre-Right and Reps are Far-Right.

That said, super glad Biden retired. He needs an old-age home, stat.
 
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Anybody that thinks any of these politicians got to where they are because they're "a good person" is willfully ignorant.

Integrity and honesty means nothing to them, their focus is power and wealth.

Best measurement would be if they're at least competent.
 
kolaval said:
Anybody that thinks any of these politicians got to where they are because they're "a good person" is willfully ignorant.

Integrity and honesty means nothing to them, their focus is power and wealth.

Best measurement would be if they're at least competent.
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Politicians are ALL rubbish. ALL of them. No exceptions. Not even the uncle who is a councillor.
 
Hemi300c said:
Harris is an evil b1tch and very dangerous.
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Waow, I’m not following American politics at all so I’ve got no judgement on Kamala except she has a confident smile and isn’t over 70 years old. Compared to Trump, though … even Zuma starts to look pretty good. Even “President Malema” has a better ring than “President Trump”. If America votes for Trump for a SECOND time, they deserve every terrible decision that man will inflict on the country again. Between Trump and literally anything with a pulse which doesn’t rape children too frequently, I’d have to vote for the other person/thing.
 
rh1 said:
The fact that this supposedly rhe best candidates in USA, is more concerning.
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except we all know it is not

Biden stood "unopposed" in the primaries and Harris didn't even run, neither had any actual votes from their party members, one was going to get installed and when his mushy brain couldn't be hidden anymore they pivoted to install the other

there's no way in hell an installed puppet represents the best USA has to offer, it merely shows there is no democracy at all

Trump is an entirely different anomaly, the masses are actually voting for him, which says more about the masses than it does Trump perhaps
 
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