Tshwane cuts off Denel's power, gets paid immediately - but should have handled it better

[Herr der Verboten]

Go easy on them guys... they couldn't even pay for toilet paper.....

good fake?

 

[Mista_Mobsta]

"Olivier emphasised that the Denel Lyttelton campus should have been handled differently from other facilities because it is a National Key Point (NKP).

“It’s all well and good to say you treat all customers the same without fear or favour, but objectively speaking, this isn’t the same type of facility as a shopping mall,” Oliver said.

Cutting electricity to the facility could have created a national security risk."


How is that the municipalities responsibility? Seems like Denel leadership should all be fired for putting a NKP at risk no?

Olivier would make a damn good politician it seems!

"It's not MY fault for not paying the bills - it's YOUR fault for charging me in the first place!"

 

[Mista_Mobsta]

Now get serious. Start cutting defaulting residences and those with illegal connections. That includes townships. People riot, dispatch the police to squash it.

I don't mean just disconnect the connections. Take the infrastructure away entirely so there's nothing to connect to.

The money's gone. Free ride is over.

Have you seen what is happening in Mamelodi? Tshwane is reclaiming tons of stolen cables and disconnecting many informal areas. I don't think we understand how big the problem is in the informal areas to be honest.

 

[rietrot]

Denel didn't pay their account for three months (possibly more), but after disconnection could cough it up immediately. And the same applies to other entities as well, which tells me they're deliberately not paying when accounts are due. As such, I've no sympathy for them and they should be disconnected as soon as they default on their accounts.

Never assume malice whe incompetence would do.

Someone in accounts are just getting a fat pay check to sit at home and not work.

Most likely because they have money troubles this is how they manage cash flow. Only pay what is really critical. And the municipal bill was not considered critical until it got switched off.

 

[rietrot]

I would like to know how many warnings they actually got before it was eventually cut. Or did the City just wake up themselves yesterday and started to cut of everyone with communicating this obvious change in policy.

 

[TheChamp]

I would like to know how many warnings they actually got before it was eventually cut. Or did the City just wake up themselves yesterday and started to cut of everyone with communicating this obvious change in policy.

If the debt is old I would be very happy if the city just woke up and cut them off, no one has time to go around baby-sitting businesses and reminding them to pay for services.

 

[mojoman]

Next week's headlines

"Denel can't pay salaries this month"

Denel employees who haven't been paid salaries in months facing bleak Christmas

ANC employees are also facing a bleak Christmas as the governing party owes them three months in unpaid wages.

www.sowetanlive.co.za

 

[rietrot]

If the debt is old I would be very happy if the city just woke up and cut them off, no one has time to go around baby-sitting businesses and reminding them to pay for services.

Wow. I expect a more reasonable good faith approach. Were the city informs it's clients they are taking a sticker stance on account in arrears and possibly give a months notice.

Which would likely be what happened.

 

[HunterNW]

Denel - Back in 93 I applied for an apprenticeship. Was a damn good company.
Got the answer in 94 - No whities thank you. AA was in full swing to please the new gods.
Look at Denel now - HA HA HA.

 

[The_Librarian]

Tussen die duiwel en die diep, blou see...

Caught between a rock and a hard place.

IMHO the municipality did the right thing. If they did not, then the debt could have ballooned out of control.

So, if it is a NKP, then due diligence must be taken to ensure that all utilities are paid for, and on a regular basis.

By not paying the NKP runs risk of getting cut off.

By not paying, and hoping the debt get written off, is totally unfair to the rest of the paying customers who now have to service that shortfall as well.

 

[The_Librarian]

Denel - Back in 93 I applied for an apprenticeship. Was a damn good company.
Got the answer in 94 - No whities thank you. AA was in full swing to please the new gods.
Look at Denel now - HA HA HA.

Bullet = dodged. Goed vir jou!

Friend of mine managed to get out of there, found another job.

He's still waiting for backpay.

 

[Pegasus]

"Olivier emphasised that the Denel Lyttelton campus should have been handled differently from other facilities because it is a National Key Point (NKP).

“It’s all well and good to say you treat all customers the same without fear or favour, but objectively speaking, this isn’t the same type of facility as a shopping mall,” Oliver said.

Cutting electricity to the facility could have created a national security risk."


How is that the municipalities responsibility? Seems like Denel leadership should all be fired for putting a NKP at risk no?

Yup.

You would think that people managing a NKP would know enough to pay their bills.

They should be fired, given a massive payout, a new higher post elsewhere and be replaced with new cadres.

 

[The_Librarian]

Have you seen what is happening in Mamelodi? Tshwane is reclaiming tons of stolen cables and disconnecting many informal areas. I don't think we understand how big the problem is in the informal areas to be honest.

Eh? That's news to me.

Somebody must've grown a pair of big balls.

 

[Mista_Mobsta]

Eh? That's news to me.

Somebody must've grown a pair of big balls.

Our domestic has sent us some Whatsapp videos circulating around the Mamelodi area with Tshwane workers, police and TMPD seen en masse pulling illegal connections. I don't see any mention of this in the media as of yet but the Whatsapp was sent on Wednesday.

 

[The_Librarian]

Our domestic has sent us some Whatsapp videos circulating around the Mamelodi area with Tshwane workers, police and TMPD seen en masse pulling illegal connections. I don't see any mention of this in the media as of yet but the Whatsapp was sent on Wednesday.

Good.

About time too.

If you want 'leccy, you can pay for it.

Like the rest of us do.

 

[AstroTurf]

Our domestic has sent us some Whatsapp videos circulating around the Mamelodi area with Tshwane workers, police and TMPD seen en masse pulling illegal connections. I don't see any mention of this in the media as of yet but the Whatsapp was sent on Wednesday.

Strange No bragging on the twitter feed...

 

[Sayf777]

Strange No bragging on the twitter feed...

To brag about that would be a collosal mistake, I'm happy the social media team has enough common sense not to.

 

[Sayf777]

It's not about suddenly having enough to cough up its about the cash flow game. Who can I afford to not pay now?
City of tshwane seemed like an easy target if they allowed businesses to run with such arrears (atleast until recently).

 

[porchrat]

Have you seen what is happening in Mamelodi? Tshwane is reclaiming tons of stolen cables and disconnecting many informal areas. I don't think we understand how big the problem is in the informal areas to be honest.

Oh the problem is massive. It's going to take years if not decades to correct.

It's not the time to fix it that I'm concerned about, it's the riots that will happen when you cut the free electricity. That needs to be managed and contained.

 

[AlphaJohn]

Oh the problem is massive. It's going to take years if not decades to correct.

It's not the time to fix it that I'm concerned about, it's the riots that will happen when you cut the free electricity. That needs to be managed and contained.

It is expected, after all they (ANC) did promise free electricity