Tshwane wants to phase out gated communities

[BBSA]

The City of Tshwane has plans to phase out gated communities over time, as it believes one main reason residents want such security will have been addressed.
The City has been presenting a Draft Policy for Restriction of Access to Public Places during a series of public participation meetings last week.

But Residents Against Crime (RAC), who have commissioned Gary Duke of Duke Attorneys and Jan Malan of Streetsafe to engage with the City on its 2019 draft policy on access restrictions, noted three primary areas of concern from a legal perspective.

These are the limit on the number of applications the City will approve, how often applicants must reapply, and the costs involved in the infrastructure that must later be dismantled.

In terms of the Rationalisation of Local Government Affairs Act, as things stand, residents must re-apply for approval of a gated community every two years.

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[konfab]

The motivation for this is that the City believes that by that time, crime will be under control and the boom gates and other measures will no longer necessary.

Gated communities are a response to crime. If they simply sorted out the crime, people would get rid of them themselves as no-one likes having to drive 3 km extra to get to where they want to go.

If this legislation goes though, the City shouldn't be shocked when suburbs convert-en-masse to HOAs with private property.

 

[PaCiFieR]

Wait, what?
Fake news?

 

[supersunbird]

Then phase in at least 2 TMPD 24/7 vehicle at minimum, per suburb. Otherwise Tsek!

 

[My_King]

Wait, what?
Fake news?

Thought fake news as well.

But might be true.

The cadre's are having a tough time getting to your things and their brothers in arms in guavament need to address the problem.

 

[ProfA]

I used to be against these gated communities. Not anymore though. **** whomever doesnt live in your neighbourhood's "right to move freely in public spaces"

 

[Milano]

The motivation for this is that the City believes that by that time, crime will be under control and the boom gates and other measures will no longer necessary.

You just can't make this stuff up.

 

[Hemi300c]

And to think people in power think like this.
Very scary

 

[ArtyLoop]

In other words, times are tough for those who steal.
Need to get their partner in crime (government) to help the situation along.

 

[Acid0]

Sjoe then we can also get rid of our high walls and armed response and dogs ...... because there will be no more crime. I believe this guy he must know what he is talking about. We live in a false sense that crime is out of control.

Where can I hand in my firearm for self defense?

 

[ArtyLoop]

And to think people in power think like this.
Very scary

This is why this country is the shithole it is... and pretty much the rest of Africa, come to think of it.

 

[yebocan]

You just can't make this stuff up.

...know your DA - they will push for greater and more organised Neighbourhood Watch involvement as a selling point...while pushing for gated communities to de-gate -crime will not improve, they will push the blame up to provincial / national - nothing we can do at local level, not our sphere....and introduce, a hekkie community security strategy/initiative , at a small monthly rate. Know your DA

 

[supersunbird]

...know your DA - they will push for greater and more organised Neighbourhood Watch involvement as a selling point...while pushing for gated communities to de-gate -crime will not improve, they will push the blame up to provincial / national - nothing we can do at local level, not our sphere....and introduce, a hekkie community security strategy/initiative , at a small monthly rate. Know your DA

We know they are in the sphere with TMPD, so won't work on us.

 

[Iwojima]

How about this Tshwane... sort out crime and the gated communities will phase themselves out over time.

Trying to legislate away the self-protection that ordinary citizens have organized for themselves as a direct result of government being unable to deal with our crime epidemic is disgusting.

 

[rietrot]

Let's see those who thought of this plan phase out all their security first.

 

[Mystic Twilight]

Maybe they should phase out door locks while they are at it.

 

[falcon786]

I used to be against these gated communities. Not anymore though. **** whomever doesnt live in your neighbourhood's "right to move freely in public spaces"

There's actually no need to physically block people from using public roads,if anything this just causes more grief for normal people who can't even rely on a GPS anymore or drive around for 15 minutes trying exit some suburbs without GPS.

I used to live in a gated community with 2 entrances that didn't trample on anybodies rights and there was/is no crime there for several years now,bar one or 2 incidents per year.There is a vehicle stationed monitoring each entrance and 1 driving around at all times...that's all it takes.

 

[My_King]

"re-apply every two years" - Ha ha what? Why?

 

[BBSA]

We need the Purple Cow to take over in Tshwane

 

[Nicodeamus]

I would like to see them make the same argument as soon as someone gets killed after they get rid of these communities.