Turkey announces incursion of northeast Syria, US-backed Kurds have vowed ‘all-out’ war

[TysonRoux]

US pulls back troops in northeast Syria, opening way to Turkish attack

The forces, known as the Syrian Democratic Forces, accused Washington of reneging on an ally, warning it would have a 'great negative' impact on the war against the militants.

ewn.co.za

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

the US could increase its pathetic refugee intake. Europe has taken in orders of magnitude more than they have

1: it's opportunistic "economic migrants", not refugees, even the EU has stopped using the term refugee for these leeches, their lives are not in danger, they simply want free shyte

2: they make the trek by land up the middle east or roll the dice on a rubber duck across the Mediterranean, how the hell do you propose they cross the Atlantic ocean?!? Europe has taken more because they ... ARRIVE in Europe ... duh

 

[OrbitalDawn]

is the u.s. stopping refugees at it's ports ?

Trump Administration Drastically Cuts Number Of Refugees Allowed To Enter The U.S.

The limit of 18,000 represents the lowest number of refugees allowed into the country since the modern refugee program was established in 1980.

www.npr.org

 

[Techne]

Hardly. If the Kurds turn to Iran for help, it'll strengthen the NeoCon argument in D.C. as they'll be an even bigger threat. The Kurds were a bulwark on many fronts...

A threat to who? Certainly not the USA.

 

[Cius]

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is pushing a radical solution — resettling refugees in a swath of Syrian territory controlled by the United States and its Kurdish allies. If that does not happen, he is threatening to send a flood of Syrian migrants to Europe.
Mr. Erdogan has long demanded a buffer zone along Turkey’s border with Syria to keep out Kurdish forces, whom he considers a security threat.
But he has repackaged the idea for the zone as a refuge for Syrians fleeing the war — pushing it as resentment against Syrians in Turkey has increased, and a Syrian and Russian offensive in Syria has sent hundreds of thousands more refugees fleeing toward the Turkish border.

“Our goal is to settle at least one million Syrian brothers and sisters in our country in this safe zone,” Mr. Erdogan told leaders of his Justice and Development Party in Ankara on Thursday. “If needed, with support from our friends, we can build new cities there and make it habitable for our Syrian siblings.”

Turkey’s Radical Plan: Send a Million Refugees Back to Syria

Germany's Horst Seehofer warns of 'refugee wave' bigger than in 2015

NOW we know the TRUTH -- ISIS be damned

Just like I said -- ANOTHER ARMENIAN GENOCIDE !

They don't want the refugee's, nor do they want Kurds along their borders, this solves both problems for them. Not dissimilar to the 1820 settlers (or suckers) being brought in as a buffer between the Cape colony and the Xhosa empire. Sometimes you need some suckers to soak up the bullets and send their own bullets back again. Diabolical Turkey, and hence just like how your racist mean spirited little minds work.

 

[GhostSixFour]

Boggles my mind that the US continue to keep a stockpile of tactical nuclear weapons in Turkey.

Why? It's not like turkey is gonna go attack a US military installation. The response to that will be swift and devastating.

 

[Pegasus]

For anyone interested, Trump starts talking about Syria at 35:30

And a special bonus of Shiff and the latest scam at 49:01

 

[thestaggy]

Poor form turning their backs on what has been a key ally for them in the fight against ISIS.

Really, after fvcking Iraq up and by extension Syria, the decent thing the US could've done was help forge some sort of Kurdish state. At least in the mess that is Iraq.

 

[Suspect99]

Poor form turning their backs on what has been a key ally for them in the fight against ISIS.

Really, after fvcking Iraq up and by extension Syria, the decent thing the US could've done was help forge some sort of Kurdish state. At least in the mess that is Iraq.

I doubt they want to make another Israel type situation

 

[Pegasus]

Poor form turning their backs on what has been a key ally for them in the fight against ISIS.

Really, after fvcking Iraq up and by extension Syria, the decent thing the US could've done was help forge some sort of Kurdish state. At least in the mess that is Iraq.

And the USA must pay for it?

 

[thestaggy]

And the USA must pay for it?

They don't seem to have a problem paying for other oppressive, shittier regimes in that part of the world.

 

[konfab]

Poor form turning their backs on what has been a key ally for them in the fight against ISIS.

Really, after fvcking Iraq up and by extension Syria, the decent thing the US could've done was help forge some sort of Kurdish state. At least in the mess that is Iraq.

You want the USA with its exemplary record of state building to build a new country in a country they invaded? You just have to see how happy the establishment of Israel made all the Arab countries,.

It really does suck, but I do think the US is doing the right thing here in the long run. Decades of interference in the Middle East has lead to what exactly? Peace?

 

[Pegasus]

They don't seem to have a problem paying for other oppressive, shittier regimes in that part of the world.

"They" is before Trump. Trump is trying to end that.

 

[thestaggy]

You want the USA with its exemplary record of state building to build a new country in a country they invaded? You just have to see how happy the establishment of Israel made all the Arab countries,.

It really does suck, but I do think the US is doing the right thing here in the long run. This business of proxy wars needs to stop.

More like I'd hoped that after decades of this stuff they'd maybe try a new route.

The only thing that kept Iraq together anyway was Saddam and his secularism. That country should've been split post invasion. Kurdish Iraq, Sunni Iraq and Shia Iraq.

Its going to be a never ending mess now. Good chance of a Kurdish insurgency in northern Syria/Turkey. Who knows how this will affect the Iraqi Kurds. Proxy wars will continue as someone will gain something by supporting the Kurds. I am going to laugh my arse off if the Russians swoop in there and start screwing with Turkey.

 

[Unhappy438]

"They" is before Trump. Trump is trying to end that.

Well that's rubbish given his support for the Saudi Regime.

 

[Pegasus]

Well that's rubbish given his support for the Saudi Regime.

What is the alternative?

 

[Alan]

And the USA must pay for it?

Turns out people want the USA "world police" after all.....

 

[Temujin]

Literally hitler, no business being there, responsible for killing puppies and babies, bring troops home
*trump brings troops home*
Literally hitler, no business pulling out, responsible for killing puppies and babies, leave troops there

 

[Alan]

Literally hitler, no business being there, responsible for killing puppies and babies, bring troops home
*trump brings troops home*
Literally hitler, no business pulling out, responsible for killing puppies and babies, leave troops there

 

[buka001]

Why? It's not like turkey is gonna go attack a US military installation. The response to that will be swift and devastating.

Agreed.

Yet there is still a risk and for me the risk outweighs the reward.

What is the point of stockpiling 50 nukes in Turkey?