TV white spaces broadband trial: good news for South Africa

I am still very curious to see how this will be policed as whatever bandwidth is available will get consumed.
 
Bern said:
I am still very curious to see how this will be policed as whatever bandwidth is available will get consumed.
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geolocation database / radio sensing when ready
but probably first come first served (although in SA there may be quite a lot of bandwidth, particularly in the rural areas this tech currently targets)
 
dominic said:
geolocation database / radio sensing when ready
but probably first come first served (although in SA there may be quite a lot of bandwidth, particularly in the rural areas this tech currently targets)
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that geo database is going to be useless with ICASA behaving the way they are at the moment....
 
For us living in rural areas, this is music to our ears. Let's hope it becomes a reality. Need any guinea pigs?
 
SteveO said:
that geo database is going to be useless with ICASA behaving the way they are at the moment....
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in the traditional telecoms frequencies, yes, but not really an issue here

Vicky S where are you?
 
dominic said:
geolocation database / radio sensing when ready
but probably first come first served (although in SA there may be quite a lot of bandwidth, particularly in the rural areas this tech currently targets)
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So what stops me using more frequency? don't get me wrong, I am all for it - just playing devil's advocate here a bit for urban areas.
 
Bern said:
So what stops me using more frequency? don't get me wrong, I am all for it - just playing devil's advocate here a bit for urban areas.
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not 100% clear on the question mr advocate. it is by no means clear how things will work but if it is first come first served then as each device is registered with the database it will be directed to use what is available. when nothing is available...
 
dominic said:
in the traditional telecoms frequencies, yes, but not really an issue here
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I thought original idea behind this DB was to do auto look-ups on what channels to avoid based on the TV channels used in each geographic region?
From what I can see this info would first need to come from ICASA, after this then we should be ok.
 
SteveO said:
I thought original idea behind this DB was to do auto look-ups on what channels to avoid based on the TV channels used in each geographic region?
From what I can see this info would first need to come from ICASA, after this then we should be ok.
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yip - the info from Sentech / Orbicom / ICASA on use of the broadcasting channels is good and can be used
the same does not apply to the traditional telecoms frequencies above 1GHz so would not be so easy to populate and validate the databasr
 
dominic said:
not 100% clear on the question mr advocate. it is by no means clear how things will work but if it is first come first served then as each device is registered with the database it will be directed to use what is available. when nothing is available...
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dominic said:
yip - the info from Sentech / Orbicom / ICASA on use of the broadcasting channels is good and can be used
the same does not apply to the traditional telecoms frequencies above 1GHz so would not be so easy to populate and validate the databasr
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That kind of answers my question, I didn't realise it was confined to the TV spectrum only.
 
How is this going to look package wise? I assume they aren't going to just hand out bw for free?
 
HavocXphere said:
How is this going to look package wise? I assume they aren't going to just hand out bw for free?
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Well from what I can see all the big boys (excl Google) are arguing for a form of licencing, perhaps free licencing but restricted, ie operator x gets channel y, operator A gets channel B etc etc. This is to reduce the potential interference, which would plague this tech if there was no regulation.However if this DB were to track who was using what and where, then it could be overcome.

Secondly it looks like the key is also to use the spectrum for rural areas is "small" cells, all the white papers seem to point to this as the most efficient use. This kinda renders Google's blimp idea a bit moot, but that said there is always a way to extract better performance over the air.
 
Bern said:
That kind of answers my question, I didn't realise it was confined to the TV spectrum only.
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which is a good point - the tv white spaces is where the trials are because there is clearly frequency available, but the geolocation database approach has application everywhere....for me the next target is the 30GHz and above bands
 
SteveO said:
Well from what I can see all the big boys (excl Google) are arguing for a form of licencing, perhaps free licencing but restricted, ie operator x gets channel y, operator A gets channel B etc etc. This is to reduce the potential interference, which would plague this tech if there was no regulation.However if this DB were to track who was using what and where, then it could be overcome.
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in SA aiming for essentially licence exempt subject to registration with database, calling it managed spectrum access and would be an entirely new spectrum management model here...
 
dominic said:
in SA aiming for essentially licence exempt subject to registration with database, calling it managed spectrum access and would be an entirely new spectrum management model here...
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Who records and administers those databases? i.e. can they be fudged or used for the inevitable legal wranglings when two players step on each others frequencies?
 
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