Twitter permanently bans Donald Trump

[daveza]

Outrage about his Twitter access being banned, but hardly a peep about his Facebook suffering the same fate.

Because anonymity is harder on Facebook ?

 

[2023]

Outrage about his Twitter access being banned, but hardly a peep about his Facebook suffering the same fate.

Because anonymity is harder on Facebook ?

Perhaps, I would assume when people talk about the twitter banning they would extrude that to google/apple/facebook/next big thing.


Just way easier to focus on the twitter thing because tweets are easier to share than facebook posts (can you even share facebook posts here on mybb the way twitter posts are shared?) and thus the reach and audience will always be more than facebook. I'm pretty sure anonymity plays a part too.

 

[LCBXX]

Outrage about his Twitter access being banned, but hardly a peep about his Facebook suffering the same fate.

Because anonymity is harder on Facebook ?

No. It's because MSM isn't pushing articles about his FB account, so people aren't "informed".

 

[Pegasus]

Twitter down 10% now.

Twitter stock tumbles 10% after Trump is permanently banned from the platform | Businessinsider

The social-media company suspended the president's account due to the "risk of further incitement of violence."

www.businessinsider.co.za

 

[Temujin]

 

[cerebus]

Eh cry me a river

 

[2023]

I'm just waiting for the politicians to move on this. Start throwing in measures to have more control under the guise of "we must never let this happen again"

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Such a good article: The Progressive Purge Begins

He added that while Twitter is a private company, “we have seen many examples in Russian and China of such private companies becoming the state’s best friends and enablers when it comes to censorship.”

Ah, the hypocrisy (and notice this is coming from the CEO of Twitter...I wonder if multi-millionaire Dick Costolo has helped the rampant homelessness in Commiefornia California? Or helped clear up all the literal #2s on pavements? Does he give more tax to the IRS than he needs to?

The stampeding tech giants say Parler hosts material that encourages violence. Though Parler has a policy against incitement, Apple pointed to recent violent posts the site didn’t take down. It’s not as if violent content hasn’t been posted on the larger platforms. None other than former Twitter CEO Dick Costolo posted last year that “me-first capitalists” would be “the first people lined up against the wall and shot in the revolution.”

Sociologists have documented how America’s political tribes increasingly shop at different stores, live in different places and have different tastes. That cultural gap contributed to Donald Trump’s rise, and political segregation of the internet will widen it.

Dissenting opinion won’t vanish because tech CEOs ban it. The views will go underground, perhaps become radicalized in frustration, and eventually burst into the open in the streets. Perceived political abuses by tech firms are becoming a major engine of populism in the 21st century, and the companies’ moves on Parler will supply an infusion of fuel.

Don't ever forget this thread. All there are of course numerous factors that fuel radicalism, this one will be a major one going forward, all cheered one by the liberal press & supporters who will then try and exculpate themselves from partially causing further polarisation...

All the more so because Silicon Valley is truckling to the progressives who will soon dominate Washington. Democrats are applauding the new tech blacklists, and for months they have pounded Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg with threats if he doesn’t censor political content they don’t like. The big tech firms may be private, but their censorship at the behest of the powerful in government raises moral and legal issues.

Yup, it's a definite quid-pro-quo going on there. Nothing funnier than Democrats, supposedly the party for the underdogs, marching in locking step with billionaire plutocrats. Also of course, the left's broader alliance with big business is an inversion of what one might expect of a centre-left political party.

In Marsh v. Alabama (1946), the Supreme Court ruled that a privately owned town couldn’t restrict the distribution of religious materials because the company was a de facto government. Tech firms that dominate the flow of information in the U.S. and censor at the behest of powerful Democrats also deserve First Amendment scrutiny. The lock-step tech banning of Parler may also violate antitrust laws.

New and aggressive uses of corporate, politically endorsed power to silence larger swathes of the right will be destructive in a way that all Americans may live to regret.

 

[Pegasus]

Twitter down 10% now.

Twitter stock tumbles 10% after Trump is permanently banned from the platform | Businessinsider

The social-media company suspended the president's account due to the "risk of further incitement of violence."

www.businessinsider.co.za

11,56% down now.

At $45.53 right now, on Jan 1st they were at $54.53. 19.8% down for the YTD.

Can't possibly have anything to do with Trump?
He doesn't have as many followers as Obama.

 

[RanzB]

Commiefornia California?

It's so satisfying to watch as your mask slips further and further.

 

[wbot]

The world will be a much better place without any social media. Those getting banned should be happy

 

[Hamish McPanji]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1348610379988021248

Merkel

So basically, government controlled censorship is the way to go? You support this?

From a German?

 

[Hamish McPanji]

But you've always misliked her for the EU?

Keep up. He's also quoting celebrities now. Which is the thing he laughs at others for doing.

 

[daveza]

The world will be a much better place without any social media. Those getting banned should be happy

The world would be better without guns yet here we are.

 

[scudsucker]

Keep up. He's also quoting celebrities now. Which is the thing he laughs at others for doing.

I'm beginning to ask myself if Chris has been arguing in good faith all along...

 

[cerebus]

Such a good article: The Progressive Purge Begins



Ah, the hypocrisy (and notice this is coming from the CEO of Twitter...I wonder if multi-millionaire Dick Costolo has helped the rampant homelessness in Commiefornia California? Or helped clear up all the literal #2s on pavements? Does he give more tax to the IRS than he needs to?








Don't ever forget this thread. All there are of course numerous factors that fuel radicalism, this one will be a major one going forward, all cheered one by the liberal press & supporters who will then try and exculpate themselves from partially causing further polarisation...



Yup, it's a definite quid-pro-quo going on there. Nothing funnier than Democrats, supposedly the party for the underdogs, marching in locking step with billionaire plutocrats. Also of course, the left's broader alliance with big business is an inversion of what one might expect of a centre-left political party.

What's your stance on Muslim terrorism? Think ISIS training camps should be taken down? What's the difference between that and Parler? Honest question.

The Parler community was fomenting domestic terrorists and those guys went out last week and attempted to commit a coordinated, unprecedented attack on the nation's capital. They bludgeoned a police officer to death in a vicious mob attack. They were within a minute of entering the Senate hall, armed with human restraints and pipe bombs. They were militarized and disciplined:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ParlerWatch/comments/kue84r

 

[wbot]

The world would be better without guns yet here we are.

Debatable. So let's say the world is gun free now. How do competent police deal with dangerous criminals/killers/terrorists etc? How do people protect their homes?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

What's your stance on Muslim terrorism? Think ISIS training camps should be taken down? What's the difference between that and Parler? Honest question.

The Parler community was fomenting domestic terrorists and those guys went out last week and attempted to commit a coordinated, unprecedented attack on the nation's capital. They bludgeoned a police officer to death in a vicious mob attack. They were within a minute of entering the Senate hall, armed with human restraints and pipe bombs. They were militarized and disciplined:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ParlerWatch/comments/kue84r

It would find another outlet. As the WSJ points out, all it would do is push it underground...there are always and means to get around stuff like this. Indeed pushing it underground actually probably makes it harder, not easier, for authorities to monitor potential problems. Also, there's always the problem of determining what is real and what is fiction - lots of internet 'hard men' on the internet but who would never hurt a fly in the real world.

 

[cerebus]

It would find another outlet. As the WSJ points out, all it would do is push it underground...there are always and means to get around stuff like this. Indeed pushing it underground actually probably makes it harder, not easier, for authorities to monitor potential problems. Also, there's always the problem of determining what is real and what is fiction - lots of internet 'hard men' on the internet but who would never hurt a fly in the real world.

Again, not sure how it's any different from ISIS training camps. The attackers on Capitol were domestic terrorists, agreed or no? And they used Parler to coordinate, agreed or no? And Parler is a breeding ground for those people, agreed or no?

 

[daveza]

Debatable. So let's say the world is gun free now. How do competent police deal with dangerous criminals/killers/terrorists etc? How do people protect their homes?

Indeed.

It's a product that has both advantages and disadvantages.

Just like social media.