Twitter to launch paid-for verified accounts

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Fair enough. good luck to him. It's not something that affects or would ever affect me, but just to say that Twitter has a tried and tested format and I wouldn't be surprised if he breaks Twitter for good.
You know that Jack Dorsey is backing Musk, right?
 

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Meh. As much as twitter should be "grateful" for celebrities providing free content, "Celebrities" are only "celebrities" so long as they connect with their audience. Seems like a fair trade to me. Frankly, it's just the cost of doing business

I don't think any author or film or pop or sports star would suffer even a tiny bit of popularity loss if they were on Twitter or not. IMO it's quite the opposite o0f what you say and making these people 'accessible' attracts fans to Twitter. The fact of course is that each post of these big stars has hundreds and thousands of replies to a Tweet in 30 seconds and no real interaction is possible is the reality of that accessibility though.
 

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You know that Jack Dorsey is backing Musk, right?

Yes, I saw. But I just think that trying to turn Twitter into his one app to rule them all is fraught with danger. It's Twitter. People love it already. If it ain't broke...
 

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I don't think any author or film or pop or sports star would suffer even a tiny bit of popularity loss if they were on Twitter or not. IMO it's quite the opposite o0f what you say and making these people 'accessible' attracts fans to Twitter. The fact of course is that each post of these big stars has hundreds and thousands of replies to a Tweet in 30 seconds and no real interaction is possible is the reality of that accessibility though.
I guess time will tell. Can master businessman Elon make twitter profitable without ads?...
 

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I guess time will tell. Can master businessman Elon make twitter profitable without ads?...

Back to Badiel's quote. You'd think Musk might've conducted a bit of market research instead of bartering with the celeb users.
 

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Back to Badiel's quote. You'd think Musk might've conducted a bit of market research instead of bartering with the celeb users.
Maybe, maybe not. I'd personally bet my money on Musk not being an idiot. Only time will tell though, all humans are fallible
 

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What are the results so far?

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As expected, but the price is settled at $8 p/m, though I think it may still be open to discussion because the moment people, well, those who realised that Musk is actively bartering with the community they started to chip in. I expect it to be $3-8, but I don’t think Musk and co. wants diminishing returns since Twitter is bleeding money, so I guess $8 it is with some compromises. The pricing will be regional, so we are likely to get a price parity discount. Not that I would subscribe, maybe the business, but I do my best to divert attention away.
 

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I guess time will tell. Can master businessman Elon make twitter profitable without ads?...

As dismissive as people are with ads, it is content too and can positively contribute to the ecosystem. It is placement and quality control which are the issues. You get people involved, then you get their business involved too. Ads are evolving; it has more to do with engagement today than visual perception. Good marketing is consciously stimulating.
 

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As expected, but the price is settled at $8 p/m, though I think it may still be open to discussion because the moment people, well, those who realised that Musk is actively bartering with the community they started to chip in. I expect it to be $3-8, but I don’t think Musk and co. wants diminishing returns since Twitter is bleeding money, so I guess $8 it is with some compromises. The pricing will be regional, so we are likely to get a price parity discount. Not that I would subscribe, maybe the business, but I do my best to divert attention away.
Thanks for the post.

Yea.. IMHO... very few [private] people want to pay for anything on the internet. Its going to be a massive hard sell to get people to fork out money for a blue tick (something that was free previously).

Businesses I can understand... they will fork over the money.
But that is just me 2c.
 

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Thanks for the post.

Yea.. IMHO... very few [private] people want to pay for anything on the internet. Its going to be a massive hard sell to get people to fork out money for a blue tick (something that was free previously).

Businesses I can understand... they will fork over the money.
But that is just me 2c.

Who got those blue ticks?
 

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Thanks for the post.

Yea.. IMHO... very few [private] people want to pay for anything on the internet. Its going to be a massive hard sell to get people to fork out money for a blue tick (something that was free previously).

Businesses I can understand... they will fork over the money.
But that is just me 2c.

Twitter is the masses and the masses won't pay. And if the masses don't pay then there will be no point in businesses doing it because the masses will be somewhere else.
 

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Other than the blue tick being almost impossible to get, unless you meet these requirements,


or is otherwise endorsed (not going into this since it is political). Twitter does have an existing subscription model, you know, Twitter Blue priced at $4.99.


Free Twitter isn't going away.
 

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for one , Angry Joe. He mentioned he got the blue tick when he went to PAX (?) and Twitter had a rep there. He paid nothing (
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At the 20:35 mark

These are the requirements it takes, as a content creator, to receive the blue tick,

Established digital content creators who consistently publish original content (regardless of platform) for at least 6 months prior to applying and meet the follower or mention criteria listed below for other influential individuals.

Prerequisites:​

  • Account is reflecting an individual, not an organization
  • Account meets criteria for significant platform presence (top .05% of mentions or follower count) in their geographic region
  • Account must satisfy the criteria outlined in the above category denoting active accounts
You may also be required to provide the following information to determine your notability and authenticity:
  • A profile on Google Trends with evidence of recent search activity
  • A stable Wikipedia article about you that meets the encyclopedia’s notability standards for people
  • Links to 3 or more featured references within the 6 months prior to applying in news outlets that meet the News criteria above; including specialty publications related to your profession or expertise
  • A link to a content page outside of Twitter that shows your published content over the last 6 months
  • Official websites or news articles published by already Verified organizations that reference the applicant’s Twitter handle or registered email address can help authenticate the applicant's account.

prior to this, celebrities got it due to the 'impersonation' issue which is still expressed and persistent to this day. To quote this The Guardian piece,


There are about 400,000 verified users on Twitter, as of 2021, but the program has long been plagued with problems. Introduced in 2009 as a response to a growing wave of celebrity concerns about impersonation – including from Kanye West, who blogged that “EVERYTHING THAT TWITTER OFFERS I NEED LESS OF” – the “blue tick” rapidly came to be a status symbol, rather than simple proof of identity.

That led to Twitter withdrawing the verification status from controversial users such as the rightwing personality Milo Yiannopoulos, facing criticism for granting it to white supremacists, and eventually pausing the entire program for a number of years before resuming it in 2021.

all in all, there are requirements which need to be earned, and Twitter do give blue ticks to 'notable' advocates during special times. I don't know where The Guardian got the ~400 000 users, since Twitter isn't providing that data, but that would be less than 1%. Nobody is asking the masses to pay, like nobody needs a tick to post.

In the case a user with a status symbol is unhappy and unwilling to pay, there are other places to go to. Instagram gives ticks too, and has almost the same requirements as Twitter used to have.


  • Notable: Your account must represent a well-known, highly searched for person, brand or entity. We review accounts that are featured in multiple news sources, and we don't consider paid or sponsored media content as sources for review.

It is almost like blue ticked people are in the view that they are about to lose their relevancy.
 
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