Two pitbulls maul four-year-old boy to death

The_Ogre

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So the article states the child fetched the ball in a different yard but also not the yard where the dogs were in so where were these dogs and where was the child?

Did this happen in a public space or in a yard not occupied by the child and their family?
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So I went to go look what this crossing the bridge is and found this:

ZIMTYE ZAMTYAKATYA AMALUNGU OMZIMBA UMILANI(4) IZINJA EZILUHLOBO LWE PITBULL EZINTATHU.

Eli linqaku elipheleleyo

#Qaphela
Elinqaku lilandelayo linobuzaza, uyalumnkiswa ukuba uqaphele.

"Ubomi benkwenkwana eneminyaka emine ubudala eGugulethu, buphelele kwizinja eziluhlobo lwe-Pitbull"

Bashiyeke bezibamba ongezantsi abazali baka Milani Keke oneminyaka emine ubudala, ngethuba ebedlala ibhola yeRugby nabahlobo bakhe.

Kananjalo Ngesithuba sokuba sindwendwele usapho lwalenkwenkwana, sifike imeko isemaxongo, umama wayo ezithwele ngenkophe zamehlo iinyembezi. Ngethuba sidlana indlebe noziboneleyo ngesisehlo simasikizi, ongu Unathi Ndundi, uthi uve ngesikhalo emvakwendlu xa eyojonga kanti izinja ezintathu zimaxhaphetshu zitya uMilani.

Oka Unathi ukwanabe ngelithi, uzame konke ukunqanda ezozinja ebezijijisa zimtya kanobom uMilani, uthe xa ezama ukuyakuthatha into ezobetha izinja xa efika uMilani sele engasashukumi intamo nentloko kuvele amathambo.

Kukwavakala ukuba umnikazi wezinja ebengekho ngethuba kusenzeka esisehlo. Uye watsalelwa umnxeba omazisayo ngokwenzekileyo.

Amapolisa aye abizwa kwaye ityala lokubulala liye lavulwa. Ukanti namagosa ajongene nezilwanyana aye abizwa ze ezozinja bahamba nazo.

Abahlali bebegcwele isitalato saseNY1 bezozibonela esisehlo simasikizi.

*Elinqaku likwashicilelwe ngeVideo kwaye liyaphuma ngomso*

We'll need someone to translate this because Google Translate's version is kak
 

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From FB
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So I went to go look what this crossing the bridge is and found this:



We'll need someone to translate this because Google Translate's version is kak

Also a badly written article.
It talks about three pitbulls that mauled him behind the house, when he went to fetch a rugby ball they were playing with.
Doesn’t say if it was the neighbours yard or the boys home. The attack happened when the dogs owner was at work and was later phoned to inform him about the incident.
Police where called and the SPCA took the dogs.
 

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Ridgeback's including mine... generally hate strangers in their property. Luckily Ridgeback's bite and back off, as they were bred to do.
Exactly this. Most dogs will back off when you fight back, unless they have mental problems or are in a pack.
Pitbulls and some other breeds like rottweilers will actually escalate their attacks when you fight back as it is in their genetics to subdue.
 

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"..... the mother tried to climb the fence".

Sounds to me as if the child climbed into the yard the dogs were guarding.
 

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Such a cute looking kid. And just a damned shame... RIP. The poor mom and family...
 

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If it's worth anything, a friend's ridgeback once took a bite on my leg as I was leaving the yard. For the longest time I had this scar on my leg that looked like a smiley icon.
Ridgebacks are an interesting breed. Very loyal and loving, but only to a small circle of people. I like to say that my Uncle's ridgeback can count on his paws the number of people he likes. If you not in that small circle then he won't come near you and he doesn't want you petting him. But if he likes you then he will protect you viciously, and get very upset when you take too long to come and say hello. A lovely breed all round.
 

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I love dogs, and have three of my own, but personally I would never own a dog big enough to maul a person.
And I like dogs that could kill me but choose not to. I love Rottweilers because they could kill me but they choose to love me and be loyal and generally cuddly teddy bears.
 

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Ridgebacks are an interesting breed. Very loyal and loving, but only to a small circle of people. I like to say that my Uncle's ridgeback can count on his paws the number of people he likes. If you not in that small circle then he won't come near you and he doesn't want you petting him. But if he likes you then he will protect you viciously, and get very upset when you take too long to come and say hello. A lovely breed all round.
Yeah, this is my Ridgeback in a nutshell. They are fiercely defensive of their property and inner circle. Because of my studies and lockdown our 2 year old ridgeback is not used to strangers coming to the house, so we're sitting with a bit of a problem where she will attack a guest unless introduced slowly.

Massively athletic, but also proper couch potatoes.
 

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Yeah, this is my Ridgeback in a nutshell. They are fiercely defensive of their property and inner circle. Because of my studies and lockdown our 2 year old ridgeback is not used to strangers coming to the house, so we're sitting with a bit of a problem where she will attack a guest unless introduced slowly.

Massively athletic, but also proper couch potatoes.
Yeah, they will spend all day in bed and then do laps on a rugby field. My aunt once commented that her dog wouldn't let me stand over him, hug him and lift his front legs off the ground. So I did it to prove a point and all he did was demand more scratches from me afterwards. I am in the inner circle and for that I am loved but I am demanded to love him back.
 

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I had a huge musclebound giant of a pitbull called Patches that was engaged as a guard dog, and she performed her duties admirably till the day she died, taking along 2 armed men with her to the afterlife.

A pitbull is not a pet, people need to understand this. You cannot be a soft person and have a pitbull either - they will attack you.
 

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I had a huge musclebound giant of a pitbull called Patches that was engaged as a guard dog, and she performed her duties admirably till the day she died, taking along 2 armed men with her to the afterlife.

A pitbull is not a pet, people need to understand this. You cannot be a soft person and have a pitbull either - they will attack you.
Absolute load of horseshyte.

The breed is powerful without a doubt and does need a specific type of owner, which you are very clearly the absolutely wrong kind.
 

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I had a huge musclebound giant of a pitbull called Patches that was engaged as a guard dog, and she performed her duties admirably till the day she died, taking along 2 armed men with her to the afterlife.

A pitbull is not a pet, people need to understand this. You cannot be a soft person and have a pitbull either - they will attack you.
Very much disagree here... a dog is not going to attack you because you "aren't the alpha" or some other rubbish outdated logic like that.
 

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This is the false dichotomy I alluded to earlier:

A pitbull is not a pet, people need to understand this.

Wrong. If you put in the effort, they will be great pets who don't attack anyone.

You cannot be a soft person and have a pitbull either

Correct, and this is the key. You need to be a confident and assertive pack leader, know when to give affection and when not, how to correct bad behaviour, and spend the time training the dog to behave the way you want it to.

People think they can get a pitbull or rotty or a boerboel for protection, throw them in the back yard, feed them twice a day, shout at them (or worse, beat them) when they bark, and pretty much ignore them for the rest, and then are surprised when they attack.

You have to understand the breed, what they were bred for, what drives them, and what their exercise and mental stimulation requirements are. A dog that's bred to bait bears and fight other dogs is going to have some instincts - it's your responsibility to be in control of that from day one. Dogs that are bred to work is going to have a lot of energy - it's your responsibility to run them, play fetch or do whatever to exhaust them daily. Having a big backyard doesn't absolve you from that responsibility - the'll never tire themselves out sufficiently. Working dogs tend to be the smarter breeds and need mental stimulation. Again, your job. Dogs need to be taught who are friendly and who they can ignore. They need to be socialised with other dogs and other humans. Obedience training is a must.

I'll say this again: You have to be the pack leader. If you are not the pack leader, the dog is the pack leader, and you are a weak member of the pack - the dog will protect you and discipline you.

People who aren't willing to put in the effort should get a cat.
 

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I used to wonder why dogs don't live as long as humans. Used to think it was unfair after losing my precious Rottweilers. Then I realised it was mother nature's or God's way of sparing pets from sht humans as owners/parents of which the vast majority are.
 

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This is the false dichotomy I alluded to earlier:



Wrong. If you put in the effort, they will be great pets who don't attack anyone.



Correct, and this is the key. You need to be a confident and assertive pack leader, know when to give affection and when not, how to correct bad behaviour, and spend the time training the dog to behave the way you want it to.

People think they can get a pitbull or rotty or a boerboel for protection, throw them in the back yard, feed them twice a day, shout at them (or worse, beat them) when they bark, and pretty much ignore them for the rest, and then are surprised when they attack.

You have to understand the breed, what they were bred for, what drives them, and what their exercise and mental stimulation requirements are. A dog that's bred to bait bears and fight other dogs is going to have some instincts - it's your responsibility to be in control of that from day one. Dogs that are bred to work is going to have a lot of energy - it's your responsibility to run them, play fetch or do whatever to exhaust them daily. Having a big backyard doesn't absolve you from that responsibility - the'll never tire themselves out sufficiently. Working dogs tend to be the smarter breeds and need mental stimulation. Again, your job. Dogs need to be taught who are friendly and who they can ignore. They need to be socialised with other dogs and other humans. Obedience training is a must.

I'll say this again: You have to be the pack leader. If you are not the pack leader, the dog is the pack leader, and you are a weak member of the pack - the dog will protect you and discipline you.

People who aren't willing to put in the effort should get a cat.
Your points are good, but careful with the idea of pack leader. If you're referring to being the alpha in the pack then that is a myth, dogs don't compete for alpha... and neither do wolves.

So it's not about being alpha and asserting dominance. Any trainer who tells you that (including the self taught Caesar Milan) is out of touch with reality and proven biological science.
 

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“Some people are very angry. You ask yourself, in these four-roomed houses that we have what makes a person have such vicious dogs?

Crime

Five other police stations in Cape Town are also among those where the most murders were reported, with Delft and Khayelitsha taking second and third places respectively.


The others are Philippi East (where there was a spate of killings recently), Harare, and Gugulethu.

Murder stats: 6 out of 10 worst murder areas in Cape Town - and Nyanga remains murder capital | News24

Police don't have the resources to do patrols, and legal firearm ownership is very difficult. So people are left with few other options to defend themselves. Attack dogs like "pitbulls" are thus one of the options left for people to defend themselves.
 
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