Two robbers shot dead and two injured in Komga

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Is there any benefit to having the stock folded when having the gun in actual use? I would have thought having it deployed is required for that shoulder mounting against recoil.
Run and gun.
No real use for it though, just makes it harder to handle and beats the shoulder/bicep.
Maybe if you in a confined space it helps.
Not really going to see it largely adopted by anyone professional though.
 

RedViking

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WTF is Komgou? Are you sure ? Isn't it Kougom?
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Champies?
 

TEXTILE GUY

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Is there any benefit to having the stock folded when having the gun in actual use? I would have thought having it deployed is required for that shoulder mounting against recoil.
Yeah folded stock not for shooting straight :)

The R5 - which is what that looks like has a nice little howdy doody kick, bit less than the R4 - due to barrel length and muzzle velocity. Less than 7.62 39 (AK, AKM) or 7.62 x 51 NATO standard (R1, MAG)

If memory serves - so please dont quote me on this - the R4 has a muzzle velocity of just under 1000m/s, and the R5 is around 920 or there about.

The BXP SMG that we use in SA has a folding stock, 9mm round, and still has a small kick, but is secured by the strap, and we were taught to unfold the stock and tuck it into our stomach for stability on firing anyway.

Methinks these guys were in for amateur hour.
 

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Is there any benefit to having the stock folded when having the gun in actual use? I would have thought having it deployed is required for that shoulder mounting against recoil.
Certainly not recoil, but accuracy, without which it is practically useless.

In SADF training phases it was simply forbidden to fold the stock, even when transporting it (although I did when using my balsak on receiving an impromptu pass and not bothering to return it to the armoury as per regs).

There is limited use of the weapon with a folded stock inside a conventional motor vehicle, it works, but to be honest, it's really more of a "spray and pray" technique, operators who want the best from the weapon would always deploy it with the stock intact.
 

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Is there any benefit to having the stock folded when having the gun in actual use? I would have thought having it deployed is required for that shoulder mounting against recoil.

They have very little recoil.
 

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Yeah folded stock not for shooting straight :)

The R5 - which is what that looks like has a nice little howdy doody kick, bit less than the R4 - due to barrel length and muzzle velocity. Less than 7.62 39 (AK, AKM) or 7.62 x 51 NATO standard (R1, MAG)

If memory serves - so please dont quote me on this - the R4 has a muzzle velocity of just under 1000m/s, and the R5 is around 920 or there about.

The BXP SMG that we use in SA has a folding stock, 9mm round, and still has a small kick, but is secured by the strap, and we were taught to unfold the stock and tuck it into our stomach for stability on firing anyway.

Methinks these guys were in for amateur hour.
No man, R4 and R5 have hardly any recoil.
 
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