U.S. Politics

[Temujin]

So it was Tim.

Why lie?

Feeling self conscious?

When did I lie?
Fact: I did not mention his name. Fact: You did. Fact: Your TDS is showing. Stop hating on asians.

By leftist standards of 'legitness'... 400k+ followers

 

[buka001]

When did I lie?
Fact: I did not mention his name. Fact: You did. Fact: Your TDS is showing. Stop hating on asians.

By leftist standards of 'legitness'... 400k+ followers

Really sad.

Don't worry he appreciates your clicks.

 

[cerebus]

Yet not one mention of TP in my post, seems the obsession belongs to those constantly reeeeing about him... seems someone is living rent free in their head yes? I mean ffs just look above, there is a twitter channel dedicated to reeeeeeing about him. With 11.5k followers. Are you clowns serious

Serious question: why should anyone engage on anything with you when you're clearly only interested in trolling and spamming the thread? Do you not want to debate, are you incapable of it, do you just find it amusing? What's your deal?

 

[Kieppie]

When you lick his ass daily, it's not difficult to see who you were talking about.

We have powers of deduction, we're not conservatives.

Probably the best joke of the day. Lets see if it can be topped.

 

[Temujin]

Serious question: why should anyone engage on anything with you when you're clearly only interested in trolling and spamming the thread? Do you not want to debate, are you incapable of it, do you just find it amusing? What's your deal?

Fiery but mostly peaceful own amusement

Apparently

Seriously... there is no debate or discussion to be had here. We've been through it all. The pattern is always the same. Anything that is posted for discussion is always attacked due to source, not content, followed by 'butmahtrump'. If you aren't interested in the content, only want to argue the source, and flex your tds, there is no discussion or debate to be had.

 

[copacetic]

Oh, thats how it works, all about them follower and sub numbers.... well then, this means the clowns who liked this post should remember it next time they reeeeeee about a video post from someone who is a journalist, a political commentator, has 800k followers on twitter, and over 3million of subs over multiple youtube channels, who posts about comprehensive articles currently blazing all over the internet... but they won't

No, that was not the point I was making, simply that it had a bit more meat than "tweet form some random person. It is literally less credible than pizzagate", and was querying if the dude had read the article in question, as the tweet/tweeter itself is not really the point here in any case.

 

[cerebus]

Apparently

Seriously... there is no debate or discussion to be had here. We've been through it all. The pattern is always the same. Anything that is posted for discussion is always attack due to source, not content, followed by 'butmahtrump'. If you aren't interested in the content, only want to argue the source, and flex your tds, there is no discussion or debate to be had.

When have you ever tried to debate anything on the merits? Seriously I can't even think of one time. All you do is drop these godawful videos of Tim Pool or styxenhammer or troll other people's posts. And dropping a video is not the same thing as debating, unless YOU have an opinion on the FACTS in the video and are willing to discuss it.

 

[Kieppie]

When have you ever tried to debate anything on the merits? Seriously I can't even think of one time. All you do is drop these godawful videos of Tim Pool or styxenhammer or troll other people's posts. And dropping a video is not the same thing as debating, unless YOU have an opinion on the FACTS in the video and are willing to discuss it.

That proves his point.
You paint all the videos that Temujin posts with the same uninformed brush.
It is exactly the same as posting a tweet linking an article, then trashing the tweet without reading the article.
So maybe follow your own advice?

 

[Temujin]

When have you ever tried to debate anything on the merits? Seriously I can't even think of one time. All you do is drop these godawful videos of Tim Pool or styxenhammer or troll other people's posts. And dropping a video is not the same thing as debating, unless YOU have an opinion on the FACTS in the video and are willing to discuss it.

We've debated many times over the years of these threads.

We've also been through this before. The content is in the link posted. If you want to discuss it, you need to read/watch it. Screeching about the link seconds after its posted is not a discussion or debate. If you aren't willing to read/watch the content(video/article etc), there is no discussion to be had on it (generalised, not targeted at you specifically, 'we' meaning us posters in these threads, this discussion has happened multiple times)

 

[Temujin]

That proves his point.
You paint all the videos that Temujin posts with the same uninformed brush.
It is exactly the same as posting a tweet linking an article, then trashing the tweet without reading the article.
So maybe follow your own advice?

Pretty much. Not one engages in the content to have a discussion or debate, just reee seconds after its posted. If they want to discuss/debate, they need to watch/read and we can discuss, else, I recommend putting me on ignore so they don't have to see the 'trolling'

 

[tetrasect]

Pretty much. Not one engages in the content to have a discussion or debate, just reee seconds after its posted. If they want to discuss/debate, they need to watch/read and we can discuss, else, I recommend putting me on ignore so they don't have to see the 'trolling'

Yeah I've asked you before why you bother posting your Tim Pool videos. Nobody watches them. We all know by now that 99% of what he says is BS. It's just not worth it.

You can only debunk a source so many times until the source itself becomes bunk.

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

Yeah I've asked you before why you bother posting your Tim Pool videos. Nobody watches them. We all know by now that 99% of what he says is BS. It's just not worth it.

..and this, I think, is the real point.
We've all watched just enough of John Lennon to realise he's full of it.
Having a discussion on another weirdo's delusional rants is a complete waste of time.

 

[tetrasect]

Finally got around to addressing some of your "Voter Suppression" conspiracy theories.

1) Banning food and water in waiting lines:
The most laughable of the lot. Already addressed in the reply to OD.

2) Reason for closing voting booths:

Unless this is the same question as the next I assume you are referring to Biden’s false claim on voting hours? -“Among the outrageous parts of this new state law, it ends voting hours early so working people can’t cast their vote after their shift is over.”

However on Election Day in Georgia, polling places are open from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m., and if you are in line by 7 p.m., you are allowed to cast your ballot. Nothing in the new law changes those rules.

Biden earns Four Pinocchios.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/30/biden-falsely-claims-new-georgia-law-ends-voting-hours-early/

3) Reason for reducing the number of polling stations:

State election officials have cited a variety of reasons, from budget pressures to disability laws, for closing polling places, while officials in many parts of Texas and Arizona have tried to shift from neighborhood-based polling places to “voter centers” that accept ballots from all qualified citizens. For the 2020 election the pandemic was the primary driving factor.

A total 1,173 of polling places were closed after the 2014 election

Yet the Election Assistance Commission reported that 231,000 polling places were used nationwide in 2018, up from 120,000 in 2012


According to Vice almost 21,000 Election Day polling places have been eliminated heading into the 2020 U.S. election, a drastic dip in voting locations driven by a heavy shift to mail voting, coronavirus-related consolidations, cost-cutting measures

Five states’ cuts make up three-quarters of the total number of polling places eliminated in the U.S. from 2016 to 2020. California alone accounts for almost half of national polling location cuts. Kentucky, Maryland, New Jersey, and Ohio combine to account for about a quarter of the cuts in terms of raw numbers of polling locations.
Compare this to the supposed voter suppression republican states

The US Eliminated Nearly 21,000 Election Day Polling Locations for 2020

Exclusive VICE News analysis shows a 20% cut in election locations nationwide, and much deeper cuts in California, Maryland, Kentucky, New Jersey, Nevada and North Dakota.

www.vice.com

"Wait times to vote Because of the reduced capacity of polling places, the reduced number of polling places, and the longer service times due to social distancing, it was anticipated that wait times would be longer during in-person voting, even though the demand on in-person facilities would be smaller. And in fact, the SPAE data bear this out. Wait times to vote in 2020 were much greater in 2020 than in 2016. As with the past three general presidential elections, early voting wait times were much greater than Election Day wait times — 23% of early voters reported waiting more than 30 minutes early voting versus 14% for Election Day voting. However, it is interesting to note that the percentage of people waiting more than 30 minutes to vote was on par with that statistic for the election of 2008."

http://electionlab.mit.edu/sites/default/files/2020-12/How-we-voted-in-2020-v01.pdf

In other words, despite the pandemic and the reduction in polling locations this election was no worse than 2008 in terms of waiting times while simultaneously breaking almost all records.


4) Reason for removing drop boxes:

“In a 2-1 vote, a three-judge panel of the Cincinnati-based U.S. Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals granted a stay of a district judge's order instructing Republican Secretary of State Frank LaRose to permit multiple drop boxes.

"The Supreme Court has repeatedly emphasized that lower federal courts should ordinarily not alter election rules on the eve of an election ... Here, the district court went a step further and altered election rules during an election," the court opinion said.

"In all, we conclude that Ohio’s restrictions are reasonable and non-discriminatory," and promote "uniformity, which in turn promotes the fair administration of elections," the court wrote.

"Given all of those options — including on-site drop boxes, casting a vote by mail, and voting in-person weeks before election day — the absence of off-site drop boxes does not impose a material harm," their opinion said.

In a statement on Saturday morning, LaRose said: "This week, voters enthusiastically demonstrated how easy it is to vote in Ohio. The higher court’s opinion only reinforces Ohio’s standing as a leader in accessible and secure voting options." Early in-person voting began Tuesday as absentee ballots were mailed.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...allot-drop-boxes-in-ohio-counties/ar-BB19T9SK


As can be seen in the example above most of it is due to existing law. Not some Machiavellian plot by the GOP. The expanded number of drop boxes were a temporary measure in light of the pandemic. Many of the new rules were emergency in nature and not meant not be lasting. There are states, Illinois for example, that put forth legislation to make these changes more permanent however.

Drop boxes saw a 6% climb in usage from 2016 up from 16%. Election offices also saw a 6% rise from 9% and polling places saw a 4% rise from 8%. Drop boxes are not the be all and end all.

Reminds me of people claiming the removal of post boxes is a conspiracy by the USPS to steal the election.
In addition, let us not forget this

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/12/jamie-lee-curtis-warns-of-trump-fans-stealing-mail/



All this “Voter suppression” probably explains why Trump’s black votes increased 50% and Hispanic votes increased 14% from 2016.
Also interesting that the voter turnout increase for minorities outpaced those of white voters.

I know this might come as a shock, but Republicans actually also try and court Minority voters. This rhetoric that they are intentionally harming minorities is wrong and only serves to widen the partisan divide.
There are reason behind the decisions made You are free to argue whether or not they are correct. The same can be said about the HR-1 bill.

If there are any other commonly cited examples of "Voter Suppression" maybe read a bit more broadly as to why those decisions were made. Granted it's not always easy as you're at the mercy of what Media decides to report on. Unless you read the laws yourself

Surely even you can see how weak these answers are.

 

[copacetic]

I would consider leftie opinion pieces the opposite of reality. And I'm not aware and haven't read the particulars of this specific one, but they are all the same nonsense. It probably accuses someone of racism. Who cares. It's all the same.

Wait, what!? Do you literally have no idea what the subject was of the article that the tweet referenced? How on earth does that work - Dismissing something out of hand, without even glancing at it? That's... bizarre?

 

[Kieppie]

Yeah I've asked you before why you bother posting your Tim Pool videos. Nobody watches them. We all know by now that 99% of what he says is BS. It's just not worth it.

You can only debunk a source so many times until the source itself becomes bunk.

Funny how you make unfounded claims like that. So your opinions are then even worse it seems.

 

[Kieppie]

Surely even you can see how weak these answers are.

Keep living in bubble world. Eventually reality will catch up

 

[cerebus]

That proves his point.
You paint all the videos that Temujin posts with the same uninformed brush.
It is exactly the same as posting a tweet linking an article, then trashing the tweet without reading the article.
So maybe follow your own advice?

If there's some special claims the video makes it's up to him to extract it and point it out. If I spent the whole day doing nothing other than posting Young Turks videos without any commentary you also would get pretty pissed off and accuse me of trolling.

 

[Unhappy438]

Yet not one mention of TP in my post, seems the obsession belongs to those constantly reeeeing about him... seems someone is living rent free in their head yes? I mean ffs just look above, there is a twitter channel dedicated to reeeeeeing about him. With 11.5k followers. Are you clowns serious
Seems TDS has another meaning

You see even on some subconscious level you know its weird, why else would you pretend you were talking about someone else?

 

[tetrasect]

Funny how you make unfounded claims like that. So your opinions are then even worse it seems.

Except they are not unfounded. Go back to one of the previous threads and watch the myriad of Tim Pool videos dishonestly regurgitating every debunked election conspiracy and then you might realize why I stopped giving him any attention.

 

[Temujin]

You see even on some subconscious level you know its weird, why else would you pretend you were talking about someone else?

Your TDS is showing. #stopasianhate