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surface said:
What a treasonous man this Biden is. No imagination in tweets whatsoever.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1381559880981606400
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Well, he did start and mainly run his campaign from his basement. He did pick the most unpopular VP in America. The votes he received were questionable to say the least. He was confirmed in the middle of the night. He had an empty inauguration. At least 20,000 military troops were deployed to protect him.

And, nobody can question any part of this.
 
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lumeer said:
My point was that it is a bit of a stretch to accuse the Republican Party of aryanism as you did. I'm intrigued by the likes to my comment as I was actually being sarcastic when comparing them to the Nazis.
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Well, Tucker Carlson is obsessed with "demographic change" as part of his great replacement and anti-diversity rants. And he routinely goes off about immigrants polluting and diluting 'real' Americans, including actually blaming them for being responsible for literal littering. What is the purity you think he's referring to?
 
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konfab said:
There is one giant loophole in all gun control legislation in the US and that is its close proximity to Mexico and the lack of a strong border. If you don't have a strong border with a country that has a serious crime problem, their crime problem becomes yours.

This is the same loophole that exists in South Africa. A good chunk of the illegal weapons in South Africa come from Mozambique.
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That's true, although a little pointless worrying about that when your own internal problems exist. I'm happy with enforcing border control with better gun regulation.
 
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konfab said:
The 2A explicitly states the people have a right to bear arms.

It is highly explicit in what it states is a right. It is way more solid than Roe V Wade, which found that the right to privacy actually means you can kill your own child.

As I have said many times before, the best way to sort out the firearms issue is to make the focus of the legislation being competence, and using that to make sure that the people who can buy guns are actually competent to use them. You would weed out a lot of the people who would do mass shootings, as well as reduce deaths from negligence, bad storage etc.

This would be the type of thing that would actually be able to be passed because the people who would typically oppose gun control, would probably support measures that would give them a reason to sell their courses.
https://firearmtraining.nra.org/
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Why are you ignoring the first explicit words?

"A well regulated Militia...".
 
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konfab said:
There is one giant loophole in all gun control legislation in the US and that is its close proximity to Mexico and the lack of a strong border. If you don't have a strong border with a country that has a serious crime problem, their crime problem becomes yours.

This is the same loophole that exists in South Africa. A good chunk of the illegal weapons in South Africa come from Mozambique.
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Comically ignorant. The US is exporting guns for use in crimes in neighbouring countries.

www.pbs.org

The flow of guns from the U.S. to Mexico is getting lost in the border debate

The Trump administration has not addressed a root cause of the violence that drives the displacement of many families in Mexico and Central America: the flow of guns from the U.S. to Mexico.
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org
Research shows that a majority of guns in Mexico can be traced to the U.S. A report from the U.S Government Accountability Office showed that 70 percent of guns seized in Mexico by Mexican authorities and submitted for tracing have a U.S. origin. This percentage remains consistent, said Bradley Engelbert, a spokesperson for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
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A report from the Center of American Progress found that the United States was the primary source of weapons used in crime in Mexico and Canada. Other countries in Central America can also trace a large proportion of guns seized in crimes to the United States. For example, the report found that from 2014 to 2016, 49 percent of crime guns seized in El Salvador were originally purchased in the U.S. In Honduras, 45 percent of guns recovered in crime scenes were traced to the United States as well.
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It's also the case within the US, between states. Conservative states' lax gun laws fuels crime and gun violence in places like Chicago.

www.wsj.com

Report Finds Most Guns Used in Chicago Crimes Come From Outside City

Most guns used in Chicago crimes come from suburban Illinois and states like Indiana, Mississippi and Wisconsin, outside of the city’s jurisdiction, according to a new report released Sunday.
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Most guns used in Chicago crimes come from suburban Illinois and states like Indiana, Mississippi and Wisconsin, outside of the city’s jurisdiction, according to a new report released Sunday.

The report, a collaboration between Chicago police, the office of the mayor and the University of Chicago Crime Lab, found that 10 dealers sold almost a quarter of the guns that were recovered at crime scenes between 2013 and 2016. About 60% of guns used in city crimes were traced to dealers outside the state, with more than 20% from Indiana.
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Unhappy438 said:
Only after they had massive increases, i wonder why that may be ...
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Yes that's right, it coincides with ISIS demise. So really a case of nothing left to bomb rather than an actual unwillingness to continue bombing.

The truth of the matter is that every president since Carter has been a war hawk, that includes Trump. Biden will be the same no doubt.
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buka001 said:
Biden, is on watch. Hopefully he sticks to this.

Given the precedents of those who came before him, I am very skeptical at this stage.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1381992997328461826
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The ritual withdrawal announcement has come, but one thing that is a bit different this time:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1382007680840110081
 
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Unhappy438 said:
I'm struggling to figure out which part of my post you disagree with. Guns flow both ways but like I said, not much point in worrying about that if your house isn't in order.
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Well, konfab didn't say that and you responded with "that's true" to what he did say, when it isn't. He's presenting it as a purely Mexico --> US problem, where in reality 70% of the guns seized in Mexico are from the US. 'Flows both ways' is a false balance here.
 
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Sweet cheezus. Maybe refund the tax police that the Republicans defunded?

www.reuters.com

IRS chief says $1 trillion in taxes goes uncollected every year

The U.S. government is losing some $1 trillion in unpaid taxes every year and needs more and consistent Internal Revenue Service funding to go after tax cheats, IRS Commissioner Charles Rettig said on Tuesday.
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OrbitalDawn said:
Well, konfab didn't say that and you responded with "that's true" to what he did say, when it isn't. He's presenting it as a purely Mexico --> US problem, where in reality 70% of the guns seized in Mexico are from the US. 'Flows both ways' is a false balance here.
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I'm merely saying that's true if you have tough gun laws internally , people will look to start smuggling them externally. So yes the border control issue will be a loop hole to look at if the US does ever get serious about gun regulations.
 
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buka001 said:
Not pivoting, I am asking you if your approach to laws in general is apathy, then why would people bother for anti-abortion laws, or any law for that matter, since they don't matter and people get around them anyway?
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Drug laws for instance....
I think you ask a very good question.
 
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AlmightyBender said:
That's right Chris.. you're the victim of the media in this situation. I'll light a candle for you. Thots and Prayers.
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Not picking up a obviously intentional spelling "error" but I recently learned that thot is a slang and I quote "a woman who has many casual sexual encounters or relationships" so maybe the honorable non-brit will be happy with that if he knows it.
 
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