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buka001

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Did I say anything about illegal immigrants voting? I specifically said once the get citizenship.


I mentioned this as well. They are more likely to vote Democrat.
Social welfare is a good way to get and keep voters.
Combine this with sanctuary states and they'll feel indentured to the Democrats for a long time

So what is wrong with legal immigrants voting?

Looks like Tucker is trying to kill his goose that has potential to lay the golden egg ...


I mean Fox News was crowning with joy over opinion polls that showed such shifts.

So why does Tucker have such a concern? Does he really?

3rd World ... replacement.
 

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Yes more fake virtue signaling. Maybe they should do something worthwhile like dropping their prices so black people can actually afford their ice-cream.
There you go, vice signalling again.

Can't help yourself, can you?
 

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So what is wrong with legal immigrants voting?
Looks like Tucker is trying to kill his goose that has potential to lay the golden egg ...
Again. Who said anything about legal immigration?

I mean Fox News was crowning with joy over opinion polls that showed such shifts.
So why does Tucker have such a concern? Does he really?
3rd World ... replacement.
Illegal immigration <> legal immigration
Indentured slaves <> Skilled labour
 

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There you go, vice signalling again.

Can't help yourself, can you?
Sure Greg. Don't touch you on your virtue signal?

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Again. Who said anything about legal immigration?


Illegal immigration <> legal immigration
Indentured slaves <> Skilled labour
If there is no problem with regards to illegal immigrants voting, then what is Tucker referring to?

Edit - meaning illegal immigrants have not been voting ... at all.
 
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Because they become voters eventually no thanks to sanctuary states.
And why is that a problem? Especially given recent results, which favoured Tuckers ideological choices?

And why is a broadcaster of 20+ years unable to convey his points across coherently, such that it doesn't engender a sense of satisfaction and agreement with core White Nationalists ideologies?
 

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And why is that a problem? Especially given recent results, which favoured Tuckers ideological choices?

And why is a broadcaster of 20+ years unable to convey his points across coherently, such that it doesn't engender a sense of satisfaction and agreement with core White Nationalists ideologies?
I'd rather not have slave voters beholden to a party due to what they receive. ANC successfully employ the same method.

That being said the US will inevitably undergo many cultural changes in the future due to demographic changes. The same with any first world country with an influx of foreigners.


They don't show the percentages, but Non-Hispanic whites will only constitute 43.6% (down from 61.7%) in their prediction.

So yeah "replacement" will happen, but it's not a theory or bad per say.
 

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I'd rather not have slave voters beholden to a party due to what they receive. ANC successfully employ the same method.

That being said the US will inevitably undergo many cultural changes in the future due to demographic changes. The same with any first world country with an influx of foreigners.


They don't show the percentages, but Non-Hispanic whites will only constitute 43.6% (down from 61.7%) in their prediction.

So yeah "replacement" will happen, but it's not a theory or bad per say.
Tucker thinks its a serious issue. His supporters from White Nationalist circles agree with him. They have adulated in support thereof.

I mean terrorists have written entire manifestos saying the same thing as Tucker, but yeah I am sure the euphemism of his vote being replaced by a Third World immigrant is by no means the same as the theories used to motivate several terrorists.
 

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Let's play a game.

Who said -

A -

"The Hispanic voting bloc would allow the pro-immigrant, pro open borders, free healthcare for illegals, Democratic Party to finally rule the United States to become a one party-state."

B -

"The Democratic Party was trying to replace the current electorate in the U.S. with new people, more obedient voters from the Third World."


What is the difference?
 

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Tucker thinks its a serious issue. His supporters from White Nationalist circles agree with him. They have adulated in support thereof.
It's irrelevant what fringe people believe. Just like it's irrelevant what conspiracy theorists believe.

Let's play a game.
Who said -
A -

"The Hispanic voting bloc would allow the pro-immigrant, pro open borders, free healthcare for illegals, Democratic Party to finally rule the United States to become a one party-state."
B -
"The Democratic Party was trying to replace the current electorate in the U.S. with new people, more obedient voters from the Third World."

What is the difference?
Pointless game. So because the El Paso shooter included the statement in his manifesto it makes it false?

Tucker is within his right to complain about actual issues and suggest ways to address them. To try and insinuate this mean he endorses the action of deranged people is silly.
 

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It's irrelevant what fringe people believe. Just like it's irrelevant what conspiracy theorists believe.


Pointless game. So because the El Paso shooter included the statement in his manifesto it makes it false?

Tucker is within his right to complain about actual issues and suggest ways to address them. To try and insinuate this mean he endorses the action of deranged people is silly.
When what they believe makes it to the most watched cable news show for 'normies', you've shifted the Overton Window.

You can go ahead and start your three-page 'no you haven't' word-salad denial now.
 

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When what they believe makes it to the most watched cable news show for 'normies', you've shifted the Overton Window.

Where do you get this idea from? I know it's hard but add the viewership figures from the left wing normies channels and tell me what you find. Overton has exited stage left.

So we need to hold them all accountable for falsely amplifying the "Racist Police" narrative as this led to last years insurrection?
 

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It's irrelevant what fringe people believe. Just like it's irrelevant what conspiracy theorists believe.


Pointless game. So because the El Paso shooter included the statement in his manifesto it makes it false?

Tucker is within his right to complain about actual issues and suggest ways to address them. To try and insinuate this mean he endorses the action of deranged people is silly.
I am asking why a supposed issue that motivated a White Nationalist terrorist to shoot and kill multiple people, is being branded about verbatim by Tucker?

Why is he associating himself with such hate driven rhetoric?

How can it be irrelevant when they mention the same specific details and assign the exact same reasoning and blame?

America is a country of immigrants, why is that a problem and why are the specific nuances and details of this alleged problem shared in near exacting words by a terrorist and a TV host?
 

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Where do you get this idea from? I know it's hard but add the viewership figures from the left wing normies channels and tell me what you find. Overton has exited stage left.

So we need to hold them all accountable for falsely amplifying the "Racist Police" narrative as this led to last years insurrection?
LOL!

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Fox aren't pulling the window right for lefties...

Remember this?

the last tweet in that thread, and he ain't wrong...


They're targeting folks just like you, Kieppie.
 

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LOL!

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Fox aren't pulling the window right for lefties...
Remember this?
They're targeting folks just like you, Kieppie.

Haha Greg trying to compare the US with Europe. By the way your pretty picture is outdated.

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This is a much more relevant representation about this issue (from the same source as your graphic).
The Democratic party is exiting left at an alarming rate. Imagine where they are in 2021.

Now tell me again how the Overton window shifted?
 

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ADL: "Tucker Carlson is a racist and should be fired for replacement theory."

Also ADL: "Jews and Palestinians should not co-exist in the same country, of Israel, because Palestinians would replace them."

Furthermore, bi-nationalism is unworkable given current realities and historic animosities. With historically high birth rates among the Palestinians, and a possible influx of Palestinian refugees and their descendants now living around the world, Jews would quickly be a minority within a bi-national state, thus likely ending any semblance of equal representation and protections. In this situation, the Jewish population would be increasingly politically – and potentially physically – vulnerable.

It is unrealistic and unacceptable to expect the State of Israel to voluntarily subvert its own sovereign existence and nationalist identity and become a vulnerable minority within what was once its own territory.

 

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I am asking why a supposed issue that motivated a White Nationalist terrorist to shoot and kill multiple people, is being branded about verbatim by Tucker?
Why is he associating himself with such hate driven rhetoric?

The truth isn't influenced by who believes in it nor what they do about it.

How can it be irrelevant when they mention the same specific details and assign the exact same reasoning and blame?
Because their actions are illegal and not something a normal person would agree with

America is a country of immigrants, why is that a problem and why are the specific nuances and details of this alleged problem shared in near exacting words by a terrorist and a TV host?
As are most countries. Yes they all enforce their borders. I'm much more skilled than those migrants, but I'll also be an illegal immigrant if I cross the border illegally.

As per you argument all News outlets that regurgitate the racist police rhetoric should be liable for last years Insurrection. And this year as they are still making it worse.

 

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The truth isn't influenced by who believes in it nor what they do about it.


Because their actions are illegal and not something a normal person would agree with


As are most countries. Yes they all enforce their borders. I'm much more skilled than those migrants, but I'll also be an illegal immigrant if I cross the border illegally.

As per you argument all News outlets that regurgitate the racist police rhetoric should be liable for last years Insurrection. And this year as they are still making it worse.


I must have missed the part where they stormed the Capitol, trying to overturn the election, like your beloved Proud Boys did ... you know like what an actual insurrection is defined as.


But, then again you have to whataboutism, to make the acts of your Proud Boys seem less severe, since you are a defender of their rights to try overthrow the government.

Anyway back to the topic of discussion.

You are trying to change the meaning of what Tucker said, because it explicitly aligns with the exact same motivations used by a terrorist to murder people.

So yet again here you are trying to defend what someone actually said because you know exactly what it means. So you have to defend it.

You have to distract from the direct words used, the meanings and implications because it is too difficult to admit that due to your cognitive dissonance you cannot confront the truth that you are defending a rhetoric used by a white nationalist terrorist to provide his motivations to murder people.

So you have to defend.

You have to make up comparisons that distract. You have to pretend that his words don't mean what they say.

It is a fantastic study of this phenomenon.

I called out your Proud Boys months before Jan 6. Your defense of them aged like milk in the sun.

How will your defense of Tucker age this time, given how his White Nationalist supporters are rejoicing over his videos?
 
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