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richjdavies

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But they're totally not "brainwashed", and everyone else are the liars and conspiracy theorists... o_O
"refusing to cover specific topics that would hurt Biden." is editorial privaledge.
It's different from just making stuff up like the National Enquirer or something.

There are degrees of badness - else you're just saying x did a bad thing, so everything they do/ever have done is terrible and bad - I think that's actually the definition of strawman?

Sniffing a kids head is not the same kind of abuse as grabbing a p*ssy... etc.
 

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Isn't that the "I heard him say" (making it a 'he said, she said) guy who kept flip flopping his story and when they did an 'on site' investigation discovered that at that distance he wouldn't have been able to hear properly?

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Can you link me an official report of the on-site investigation? That'd be an interesting read.


Also, this is worth a watch.

 

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"refusing to cover specific topics that would hurt Biden." is editorial privaledge.
It's different from just making stuff up like the National Enquirer or something.

There are degrees of badness - else you're just saying x did a bad thing, so everything they do/ever have done is terrible and bad - I think that's actually the definition of strawman?

Sniffing a kids head is not the same kind of abuse as grabbing a p*ssy... etc.
Lying by omission is still lying.
 
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"refusing to cover specific topics that would hurt Biden." is editorial privaledge.
It's different from just making stuff up like the National Enquirer or something.

There are degrees of badness - else you're just saying x did a bad thing, so everything they do/ever have done is terrible and bad - I think that's actually the definition of strawman?

Sniffing a kids head is not the same kind of abuse as grabbing a p*ssy... etc.
I see you're another one who has been fooled by far too many false narratives. You simply know far too much that isn't so at this point, for anything that I could say to make any difference.

I'm sorry this has happened to you.
 

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Lying by omission is still lying.
but it's different.
Deciding to side with your buddy and not out him on something he's done... is that the same as saying the sky is green? Well, okay then. I guess that makes everyone the "slime" you're talking about. They lied by ticking the T&C box that said they read the T&Cs... LIERS!
They killed a bug once, so they are killers.

Surely there's a glimmer of recognition that not all things are the same?
 
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richjdavies

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I see you're another one who has been fooled by far too many false narratives. You simply know far too much that isn't so at this point, for anything that I could say to make any difference.

I'm sorry this has happened to you.
Quick to judge a bit - Think this is my first post on this topic... so not sure how you can decide I've been fooled by far too many of anything?
 

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Can you link me an official report of the on-site investigation? That'd be an interesting read.


Also, this is worth a watch.


I'm not sure that you'll accept my source as credible though - it's one of those lying left-wing fact checking sites written with an obvious bias in that they use such emotive words as 'waffle', 'flimsiness' and 'shaky'


Anyway, it's up to you.

The article has links to the raw, unedited audio posted by Project Veritas of the interview conducted with him by postal investigators after the initial Project Veritas video.

The specific bit around not being able to hear properly is from around 27:13 to about 30:00 (
) where the interviewer establishes that he would not have been able to hear properly and he (Richard) later (around 41:40) says “I didn’t specifically hear the whole story. I just heard a part of it and I could’ve missed a lot of it. … My mind probably added the rest.”

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Biden Administration Forces Female Soldiers To Shower With Men
You state you despise dishonesty, yet you post articles which are outright lies, with headings worded to sensationalise, and probably in the hope that many target readers will simply clutch their pearls and scream "look, we told you so".

Now, if you actually read the Biden order, and then go on to the military handbook and read the relevant portion, you will soon realise this story is utter schit

The false Lancet article you posted, I put down to simple error.
I've seen two others, admittedly I don't recall which they were, but now a 4th one.

It would appear the "simple mistake" is part of a pattern forming.
There are only two conclusions I can come to:
Either you are embodying the dishonesty you claim to detest,
Or, you are simply posting deceitful articles in order to underpin your narrative - truth be damned.
Either way, you are actively poisoning the well from which you drink.
 
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Quick to judge a bit - Think this is my first post on this topic... so not sure how you can decide I've been fooled by far too many of anything?
You said a lot in your single post. You need to be mindful that I have spent years researching this topic, have had these discussions in many echo chambers, as well as investing much time into correcting false narratives with my own relatives. I can tell very quickly when someone has been programmed by the dishonest left-wing media, and I know from first hand experience how much time and work is needed to undo the damage.

This may be hard to hear, and much harder to acknowledge the possibility that it may be true, but I'll elaborate a little on my thought process. I'm not going to try to convince you of anything, or debate about it.

"refusing to cover specific topics that would hurt Biden." is editorial privaledge.
Omission is just one of many ways the dishonest media manipulates those who are fooled by it. Your attempt to justify them doing that, alone tells me a lot.

It's different from just making stuff up like the National Enquirer or something.
This tells me that you've been gas-lit into believing that all alternative media sources make everything up. Years of research has shown me that mainstream media actually fabricates far more completely false stories than many alternative sources, and it's not even close. That's before considering the many other ways they mislead and manipulate narratives for the left-wing agenda.

There are degrees of badness - else you're just saying x did a bad thing, so everything they do/ever have done is terrible and bad - I think that's actually the definition of strawman?
Here you are attempting to try to rationalize the degree of badness that you perceive from the media you trust. There is a lot wrong here, but you may never have enough information to understand the situation.

Sniffing a kids head is not the same kind of abuse as grabbing a p*ssy... etc.
This shows me that you have been gas-lit with very biased narratives, which has caused you to develop a considerable level of TDS. You're not aware of most of the terrible things Biden has done, and you also think the things that Trump has done are much worse than they could ever be. Neither of these views are close to being accurate, and you may never know the extent that you have been mislead.

Addressing the examples you provided:

While I don't think the sniffing is appropriate, it's not something I would even consider when it comes to Biden being suitable for POTUS.

As for your out-of-context Trump quote, that was leaked private locker room talk, something that most men engage in to some degree. It happened in 2005, long before he ran for president, and is neither as bad as you think it is, nor would I even take it into consideration when assessing his suitability or competency as POTUS.
 
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You state you despise dishonesty, yet you post articles which are outright lies, with headings worded to sensationalise, and probably in the hope that many target readers will simply clutch their pearls and scream "look, we told you so".

Now, if you actually read the Biden order, and then go on to the military handbook and read the relevant portion, you will soon realise this story is utter schit

The false Lancet article you posted, I put down to simple error.
I've seen two others, admittedly I don't recall which they were, but now a 4th one.

It would appear the "simple mistake" is part of a pattern forming.
There are only two conclusions I can come to:
Either you are embodying the dishonesty you claim to detest,
Or, you are simply posting deceitful articles in order to underpin your narrative - truth be damned.
Either way, you are actively poisoning the well from which you drink.

David Freeman should really be banned, his behaviour is exceedingly obnoxious and trollish.

On a better note:


Biden’s Initial Approval Rating Is Higher Than Trump’s Ever Was

Most voters give Biden positive marks for his job performance
 

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You said a lot in your single post. You need to be mindful that I have spent years researching this topic, have had these discussions in many echo chambers, as well as investing much time into correcting false narratives with my own relatives. I can tell very quickly when someone has been programmed by the dishonest left-wing media, and I know from first hand experience how much time and work is needed to undo the damage.

This may be hard to hear, and much harder to acknowledge the possibility that it may be true, but I'll elaborate a little on my thought process. I'm not going to try to convince you of anything, or debate about it.


Omission is just one of many ways the dishonest media manipulates those who are fooled by it. Your attempt to justify them doing that, alone tells me a lot.


This tells me that you've been gas-lit into believing that all alternative media sources make everything up. Years of research has shown me that mainstream media actually fabricates far more completely false stories than many alternative sources, and it's not even close. That's before considering the many other ways they mislead and manipulate narratives for the left-wing agenda.


Here you are attempting to try to rationalize the degree of badness that you perceive from the media you trust. There is a lot wrong here, but you may never have enough information to understand the situation.


This shows me that you have been gas-lit with very biased narratives, which has caused you to develop a considerable level of TDS. You're not aware of most of the terrible things Biden has done, and you also also think the things that Trump has done are much worse than they could ever be. Neither of these views are close to being accurate, and you may never know the extent that you have been mislead.

Addressing the examples you provided:

While I don't think the sniffing is appropriate, it's not something I would even consider when it comes to Biden being suitable for POTUS.

As for your out-of-context Trump quote, that was leaked private locker room talk, something that most men engage in to some degree. It happened long before he ran for president, and is neither as bad as you think it is, nor would I even take it into consideration when assessing his suitability or competency as POTUS.
Scarequote private locker room talk scarequote.

 

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You said a lot in your single post. You need to be mindful that I have spent years researching this topic, have had these discussions in many echo chambers, as well as investing much time into correcting false narratives with my own relatives. I can tell very quickly when someone has been programmed by the dishonest left-wing media, and I know from first hand experience how much time and work is needed to undo the damage.

This may be hard to hear, and much harder to acknowledge the possibility that it may be true, but I'll elaborate a little on my thought process. I'm not going to try to convince you of anything, or debate about it.


Omission is just one of many ways the dishonest media manipulates those who are fooled by it. Your attempt to justify them doing that, alone tells me a lot.


This tells me that you've been gas-lit into believing that all alternative media sources make everything up. Years of research has shown me that mainstream media actually fabricates far more completely false stories than many alternative sources, and it's not even close. That's before considering the many other ways they mislead and manipulate narratives for the left-wing agenda.


Here you are attempting to try to rationalize the degree of badness that you perceive from the media you trust. There is a lot wrong here, but you may never have enough information to understand the situation.


This shows me that you have been gas-lit with very biased narratives, which has caused you to develop a considerable level of TDS. You're not aware of most of the terrible things Biden has done, and you also also think the things that Trump has done are much worse than they could ever be. Neither of these views are close to being accurate, and you may never know the extent that you have been mislead.

Addressing the examples you provided:

While I don't think the sniffing is appropriate, it's not something I would even consider when it comes to Biden being suitable for POTUS.

As for your out-of-context Trump quote, that was leaked private locker room talk, something that most men engage in to some degree. It happened long before he ran for president, and is neither as bad as you think it is, nor would I even take it into consideration when assessing his suitability or competency as POTUS.

You may want to check that you don't come across as patronizing

Patronizing is an adjective that means displaying condescension toward a person in a way that arrogantly implies that it’s actually kind or helpful to that person.
- https://www.dictionary.com/browse/patronizing
 
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You state you despise dishonesty, yet you post articles which are outright lies, with headings worded to sensationalise, and probably in the hope that many target readers will simply clutch their pearls and scream "look, we told you so".

Now, if you actually read the Biden order, and then go on to the military handbook and read the relevant portion, you will soon realise this story is utter schit
I'll put some time into researching this later.

I mentioned recently in this thread that while I only make claims which I have a reasonable confidence in, I do share a lot of interesting news that I come across, and that may not always be 100% accurate, especially when it is breaking news and there is limited information to be able to confirm it's accuracy.

Considering the high level of inaccuracies and misleading narratives from left-wing media which others share in this thread, most of which no one bothers to debunk and correct, I'm not too concerned.

Update: As it turns out, the headline appears to be accurate. The policy change does in fact mean that female soldiers will be required to shower with transgender people who were born with biological male chromosomes. The sensitive topic of biological gender chromosomes vs chosen gender is not one that I have any interest in discussing, especially in this forum, so we will leave it at that.
 
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Scarequote private locker room talk scarequote.

Scarequote It happened long before he ran for president scarequote.

Access Hollywood Tape, October 7, 2016:



2016 Presidential Election, November 8, 2016:


Thirty two days... Thirty two.
 

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I'll put some time into researching this later.

I mentioned recently in this thread that while I only make claims which I have a reasonable confidence in, I do share a lot of interesting news that I come across, and that may not always be 100% accurate, especially when it is breaking news and there is limited information to be able to confirm it's accuracy.

Considering the high level of inaccuracies and misleading narratives from left-wing media which others share in this thread, most of which no one bothers to debunk and correct, I'm not too concerned.
only the left-wing media?
 

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I'll put some time into researching this later.

I mentioned recently in this thread that while I only make claims which I have a reasonable confidence in, I share interesting news that I come across, and that may not always be 100% accurate, especially when it is breaking news and there is limited information to be able to confirm it's accuracy.

Considering the high level of inaccuracies and misleading narratives from left-wing media which others share in this thread, most of which no one bothers to debunk and correct, I'm not too concerned.
Fair enough, but answer me this - the "forced to share shower" article, why did you not bother to read it - just the salient parts.
It took me less than a few minutes to go to the linked Biden order and then follow the link to the military handbook.
If you choose to post sensationalist articles, have at least the common courtesy to take a quick read before posting.
 

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I'll put some time into researching this later.

I mentioned recently in this thread that while I only make claims which I have a reasonable confidence in, I do share a lot of interesting news that I come across, and that may not always be 100% accurate, especially when it is breaking news and there is limited information to be able to confirm it's accuracy.

Considering the high level of inaccuracies and misleading narratives from left-wing media which others share in this thread, most of which no one bothers to debunk and correct, I'm not too concerned.
Scarequote misleading narratives from left-wing media scarequote.

 
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