UCT Students in digs - ADSL dilemma

[Nickste]

Does using multiple bridged connections divide up the speed of the line? E.g. 4096 line / 7 = 585 per bridged connection, or does each connection get as much of the line as is not in use?
We used a squid server in my digs last year... It worked pretty well because all the facebook images, etc. were cached.

 

[PsyWulf]

Does using multiple bridged connections divide up the speed of the line? E.g. 4096 line / 7 = 585 per bridged connection, or does each connection get as much of the line as is not in use?
We used a squid server in my digs last year... It worked pretty well because all the facebook images, etc. were cached.

Each connection can max out the line

I've run more than 7 PPPoE connections on my own 4mbps line to various ISPs including axxess,openweb,telkom,webafrica simultaneously

Don't use a telkom router,it's basically a Nokia 1100 - you'll get the basics but you need more features

Bandwidth limiting et al would require a QoS supporting router and even then it wouldn't prioritize bridged connection traffic,only routed. So best to get a good proxy running

 

[Zmaster1911]

easier method if you trust each other
set up du meter on each one of your PC's
buy all the bandwith for everyone.
set it to stop the connection after a certain limit has been reached.
at the end of the month check each other's usage
you can even have it send emails to a third party automatically.
keep well

 

[Zmaster1911]

easier method if you trust each other
set up du meter on each one of your PC's
buy all the bandwith for everyone.
set it to stop the connection after a certain limit has been reached.
at the end of the month check each other's usage
you can even have it send emails to a third party automatically.
keep well

 

[techead]

Each connection can max out the line

I've run more than 7 PPPoE connections on my own 4mbps line to various ISPs including axxess,openweb,telkom,webafrica simultaneously

Don't use a telkom router,it's basically a Nokia 1100 - you'll get the basics but you need more features

Bandwidth limiting et al would require a QoS supporting router and even then it wouldn't prioritize bridged connection traffic,only routed. So best to get a good proxy running

@ psywulf

"Each connection can max out the line"

I question this

If I have a 4Mbps line, and Im connecting 7 connections at the SAME time that means I would be able to get 28Mbps on that line?

Im under the impression that people with the 8Mbps trial are struggling if they not in a excellent copper zone and close to a good exchange,

so how on earth would 27 Mbps be possible?

 

[ponder]

@ psywulf

"Each connection can max out the line"

I question this

If I have a 4Mbps line, and Im connecting 7 connections at the SAME time that means I would be able to get 28Mbps on that line?

Im under the impression that people with the 8Mbps trial are struggling if they not in a excellent copper zone and close to a good exchange,

so how on earth would 27 Mbps be possible?

Thats not what he meant/said. He should have probably worded it a bit better.

Any of the ppp connections has the potential to max out the line. If one connection maxes out the line the other 6 will have no connectivity.

The line speed is governd by the DSLAM and the speed cannot exceed that which the port was configured at. If the DSLAM port was configured at 4Mb/s you will only get 4Mb/s, no more. If you have 7 sessions going to the BRAS they still all have to use this one 4Mb/s circuit.

 

[techead]

ah ok I see now.. thanks for that

 

[Host-Connection.com]

Best option is a mixture of Bridged connections (each person with their own data package) and Netlimiter to limit your up/download speeds..

 

[warwickw]

I'd suggest getting a little Mikrotik 450 then creating 1 PPPOE session to your ISP, and on the Mikrotik create 1 PPPOE server listening on the internal network, create 7 PPPOE users so internally you all connect using PPPOE that way you can assign bandwidth shapping and log the usage of each PPPOE user.

You can combine this with Mikrotik's usermanager which runs on the unit as well, you will need to manage the changeover at month end, to reset the account balances but that is reasonably straight forward to do.

 

[Host-Connection.com]

Or you can just login to your router and change it to Bridged mode and each person buys their own Adsl account and create a network connection with their account details to login to the internet and use Netlimiter to limit your max upload and download speeds to make sure you do not pull all 4MB on the line while your friends having to be happy with speeds of 64k... No extra costs involved, each uses their own bandwidth and everyone is happy

 

[MidnightWizard]

A Suggestion

Not sure if this makes any sense -- but this is what I would try and experiment with.

Obtain a good used Cisco Wireless ADSL Router -- 800 series

Obtain a good used Cisco 12 port switch -- one running an IOS

Download FREE-RADIUS - set this up on a PC with Syslog ( for monitoring logging ) and a proxy or whatever else you want

Use one persons account details on the 4Mb ADSL. Pool your vouchers and get the resulatant type of connection. I guess you can also use other ISP accounts and set that up in the router. ( LOTS of other stuff you can do in the router as well )

Users authenticate to the network via the FreeRadius.

You can set up VLANS on the switch to differentiate the "heavy" users as well as doing load balancing etc.

When you are all finished sell off the Cisco equipment -- likely to get a better price than a cheap R500 ADSL modem.


As I said -- that is what *I* would *experiment* with.


MW

 

[Sackboy]

I still think setting up your own hotspot is the best idea - and cheapest.