Unban all “non-essential” goods now – DA

cjroelofse

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Very rich coming from the DA, the City of Cape Town won't even offer payment holidays on monthly bills. So divert that an point out what people cannot get. Weird that in one thread people are worried about retrenchment and money and in a different thread people want to buy TV's. In my opinion there is no right or wrong here, nobody knows, they history books will say who did right and who did wrong. In 2 weeks time we might be aiming a different time if the numbers spiked and we're in this for another 3-6 weeks.
 

Craig

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go sleep Craig
your family misses you and needs you

be strong brother, you will get through this :thumbsup:
Good grief smurfie, I'll explain the backstory to you tomorrow in he banter thread. You are missing the context.
 

Gordon_R

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Unfortunately this discussion is likely to go nowhere IMO. Throughout history most governments (the current one in SA, the former regime, and many worldwide) refuse to admit that they were wrong. They may backtrack when faced with overwhelming evidence, capitulate when faced with overwhelming force (particularly during wartime). But admit a mistake, NEVER...
 

Düber

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Unfortunately this discussion is likely to go nowhere IMO. Throughout history most governments (the current one in SA, the former regime, and many worldwide) refuse to admit that they were wrong. They may backtrack when faced with overwhelming evidence, capitulate when faced with overwhelming force (particularly during wartime). But admit a mistake, NEVER...
Quite right, they have only "relaxed" the rules that were inconvenient and difficult for them to police.
 

Gordon_R

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Quite right, they have only "relaxed" the rules that were inconvenient and difficult for them to police.
Very few countries have removed laws from their books. Prohibition in the US is an example of a well meaning policy that went horribly wrong. Governments love to hang onto the levers of power. Its as if they don't trust their own citizens...
 

lexity

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Sometimes it, sometimes it doesn't. When it does sometimes prices go down, sometimes they stay the same. They can even go up. A key goal of business is to avoid competition.
Because it's not a law. It is a hypothetical scenario that requires a number of factors to actually work in reality as it so nicely does in the textbook.
No, it's like putting helium into a balloon. It becomes lighter. It's a physical law. Of course there can be other factors but none of them contradict that law. Adding weights to the balloon, once filled, doesn't mean the balloon isn't lighter than it was without the helium. Course not.

A key goal of business... in a free market, is to satisfy identified needs & wants. In a free market, you as the producer have no legal power over the competition. Other than outperforming them in some way which meets with the approval of the consumer.

Now, in an interventionist, mixed, mongrel economy.. such as what we've had in the West, all bets are off. Consumers no longer play the role of consumer. No, like overgrown children, it has instead become the (coercive-)collective's responsibility to choose winners from runner-ups... via the State (which dutifully bows to the highest bidder).

Long story short, free markets by definition don't permit avoidance of competition. By outperforming your competition, you are engaging them and serving your community's consumers in the best way possible.

This is not a matter of text-book theory, it's common sense. Although less and less common these days!

Anyway this is all irrelevant and has nothing at all to do with the DA wanting to do away with the alleged list of essential goods.
If you don't mind prices staying sky high, then sure it's irrelevant. The only way prices can stay high is when you make open competition illegal. That is precisely what States are doing in the form of lockdowns. In every single case, bar none.
 

Supervan II

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I need a replacement battery, that's the long and short of it. Neither the suppliers nor the dealerships are open. I've phoned around. In the meantime, she's using my car as I am working from home.
Don't worry, they said.
You will still be able to service your car, they said.
And batteries are essential items, they said.

And meanwhile in the real world ...
 

Supervan II

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Taxis are back to morning and evening for essential workers and not for general public

Deputy minister of health Joe Phaahla told South Africans on Friday that government would work to ensure a supply of medical equipment and protective gear. He went on to say that some protective gear will be here as early as the weekend for health workers and more stock next week.
You are drinking too much Kool-Aid.

And on your taxi theory: :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
 

Forum Reader

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So did anyone here actually need something essential which was blocked off? Lots of hot air here and if it was something really essential that you're missing, you wouldn't be around to be posting on the forum.
 

cordin

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Unban all “non-essential” goods now – DA

The DA has called on the South African government to end “arbitrary limitations” on what South Africans can buy during the national lockdown.

Dean Macpherson, DA Shadow Minister of Trade and Industry, said the confusion around what is an “essential item” in stores and pharmacies “is unhelpful and should be ended”.
This retarded ANC govt must get their **** together, they are making really dumb and dangerous decisions regarding this issue, it makes no sense! It's bad enough being a prisoner in your own home and being harrassed by police and army as they deem fit.
 

cordin

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This retarded ANC govt must get their **** together, they are making really dumb and dangerous decisions regarding this issue, it makes no sense! It's bad enough being a prisoner in your own home and being harrassed by police and army as they deem fit. This is inhumane!
 
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