Unethical Sellers on MyBB Classifieds !!!

[Jola]

I bought an Asus UX31A on Classifieds, final confirmation of the deal was at 7:46 pm on Tuesday 6 Jan 2015. At this point all price and settlement details (ie payment, location of exchange) had been agreed.

The next morning the seller (Visser, name of Rian), let me know that he may be late for the exchange, but would let me know when he could make it.

Since then he has disappeared, and has obviously reneged on the deal. So I am sitting with R9000 in cash, no notebook, and I will have to pay cash deposit fees to the bank.

Everything was in writing, so I could in theory take him to court on this. Maybe force him to deliver such a notebook, he would have to buy a new one and deliver it to me at the agreed price.

A month or two ago I negotiated the purchase of a bundle of DVD's and Blu-rays for R1500. Again, price, settlement details, everything was arranged and confirmed, again all in writing.

Seller just sent me a message the next morning that someone had offered him R2000, bad luck to me.

This is really poor form, are there no ethics in the Classifieds section ?

 

[akescpt]

nope. its the wild west. if there are no itrader tracking then this happens. try the carbonite forum. actions have consequences there.

 

[DA-LION-619]

Visser the millionaire that spends thousands on biltong for his dog/s

 

[biometrics]

*cough* House *cough*

 

[DA-LION-619]

*cough* House *cough*

What happen to House after his return?

 

[sajunky]

Perhaps he got another offer from Luke7777 on 09:31 AM 07-01-2015.
Sad story, maybe Luke7777 is not aware of your deal.

 

[Mk786]

You just had 2 bad experiences.

 

[Jola]

Perhaps he got another offer from Luke7777 on 09:31 AM 07-01-2015.
Sad story, maybe Luke7777 is not aware of your deal.

No, Luke7777 contacted me, it wasn't him. He did make an offer, not being aware of my pre-existing offer, but it was for the same price, and he has also been shunned by the seller.

Someone else obviously offered more.

Seeing that this is a breach of the forum rules the mods should really look into this, there may be other relevant PM's.

But it is not just a breach of forum rules, it is also a breach of the Law of Contracts.

 

[falcon786]

I bought an Asus UX31A on Classifieds, final confirmation of the deal was at 7:46 pm on Tuesday 6 Jan 2015. At this point all price and settlement details (ie payment, location of exchange) had been agreed.

The next morning the seller (Visser, name of Rian), let me know that he may be late for the exchange, but would let me know when he could make it.

Since then he has disappeared, and has obviously reneged on the deal. So I am sitting with R9000 in cash, no notebook, and I will have to pay cash deposit fees to the bank.

Everything was in writing, so I could in theory take him to court on this. Maybe force him to deliver such a notebook, he would have to buy a new one and deliver it to me at the agreed price.

A month or two ago I negotiated the purchase of a bundle of DVD's and Blu-rays for R1500. Again, price, settlement details, everything was arranged and confirmed, again all in writing.

Seller just sent me a message the next morning that someone had offered him R2000, bad luck to me.

This is really poor form, are there no ethics in the Classifieds section ?

While I feel your pain you should count yourself lucky you were not scammed out of the 9k....all in all I would say its not worth complaining about a small thing like this maybe he has a reason for not coming through?

 

[sajunky]

Someone else obviously offered more.

Seeing that this is a breach of the forum rules the mods should really look into this, there may be other relevant PM's.

I don't think moderators would ever read private mail. It would be unethical response to the unethical behaviour. But they can make it available on legal request if you decide to go this way. EDIT: Such order could be issued on criminal, not a civil case.
BTW, Not buying anything from Visser in future...

 

[maumau]

nevertheless it's a good thing to know not to buy from Visser, Rian the millionaire who spends thousands on biltong for his dogs.

i always imagine classifieds on myBB are a safe bet but it seems this isn't the case.

 

[Jola]

While I feel your pain you should count yourself lucky you were not scammed out of the 9k....all in all I would say its not worth complaining about a small thing like this maybe he has a reason for not coming through?

Look, I don't think that it was a scam, he obviously just took a higher offer after concluding the deal with me. Legally, the computer does not belong to him, it is mine and I owe him R9000. So it wasn't his to sell to someone else.

But yes, not much that one can do about it, even though I do have a legally enforcible case it is not really worth pursuing.

Whether he has a reason for doing this ? Who knows, but he has had almost two days to contact me via cellphone (he has my number), Whatsapp or PM.

Interesting aside, one of my friends did something like this to another friends wife (who happens to be a legal expert) regarding a car. She never spoke to the seller again, and this happened some years ago. It is just quite unethical.

 

[vicv]

I understand your frustration but I really do believe that myBB do not have any power when it comes to classifieds except for moderating the content. Whether the sale is ethical or not isn't their problem.

I have yet to see the forum rules where this is specified.

 

[Luke7777]

nope. its the wild west. if there are no itrader tracking then this happens. try the carbonite forum. actions have consequences there.

Same ad was on carbonite too. Pending sale comment coincides with Jola's time of purchase
http://carbonite.co.za/f47/asus-ux31a-ultrabook-sale-91886/#post616588

 

[TJ99]

*cough* House *cough*

Bingo. I knew the name sounded familiar.

What a scumbag. OP, don't take him to court though, he has magic super lawyer powers lol.

 

[Deadmanza]

Douche bag seller, will steer clear in future. Thanks for the heads up Jola.

 

[TJ99]

Look, I don't think that it was a scam, he obviously just took a higher offer after concluding the deal with me. Legally, the computer does not belong to him, it is mine and I owe him R9000. So it wasn't his to sell to someone else.

But yes, not much that one can do about it, even though I have a legal case it is not really worth pursuing.

Whether he has a reason for doing this ? Who knows, but he has had almost two days to contact me via cellphone (he has my number), Whatsapp or PM.

Interesting aside, one of my friends did something like this to another friends wife (who happens to be a legal expert) regarding a car. She never spoke to the seller again.

Legally you are correct, offer and acceptance. But there was a thread about a similar situation where a business owner wanted to sell something because a higher offer came along, and surprisingly most of MyBB told him to take it, **** the guy he had a deal with.

 

[TJ99]

Douche bag seller, will steer clear in future. Thanks for the heads up Jola.

Oh he's a douchebag on all fronts, not just selling. He's the one that told everyone how wonderful e-tolls are (because he designed the website) and how the "hackers" were going to jail for a bazillion years.

 

[Luke7777]

Legally you are correct, offer and acceptance. But there was a thread about a similar situation where a business owner wanted to sell something because a higher offer came along, and surprisingly most of MyBB told him to take it, **** the guy he had a deal with.

Then most of MyBB should read the rules of the MyBB Classifieds
"No backtracking on accepted offers for higher offers. If you've accepted then it's a done deal unless the sale falls through."

 

[Jola]

I understand your frustration but I really do believe that myBB do not have any power when it comes to classifieds except for moderating the content. Whether the sale is ethical or not isn't their problem.

I have yet to see the forum rules where this is specified.

The Forum Rules are quite clear :

No backtracking on accepted offers for higher offers. If you've accepted then it's a done deal unless the sale falls through.