The_MAC

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Nice, the Unions are the cause of Eskom not being able to lose excess employees, remove incompetent employees, get rid of corrupt employees. Because if they did allow it, DE Ruyter might succeed, and they would lose a fortune in Union Fees. Hypocrits
They should give the job to the Union leaders if they are so cleva..

Destroy the entity once and for all, stop dragging it out so long, it's painful...
 

Ismail SA

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I don't think getting rid of de Ruyter is the solution. What they need to do is get rid of the dead weight from top to bottom. Eskom has many staff that is incompetent. Unions don't want people to to be fired. They would rather have SA go through loadshedding and the rest of the of the country suffer. Eskoms staff should be audited and the positions they hold should be investigated to see if they meet all the requirements. The country spends millions on investigations - start investigating staff. Why do they get to to have high salaries while not performing and us as tax payers suffer. Electricity prices gets increased every to pay incompetent peoples salaries.

To fix the country hard decisions needs to be made. Start cleaning out the dead weight from top to bottom in all institutions. Also, if Eskom is running at a loss then cut salaries and benefits. How can wd be expected to pay more for electricity to cover salaries. No logic in anything.

The solutions are simple. Start implementing them.
 

Jet-Fighter7700

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love how the ANC plays these blame games,
trying to dance around the issue at fault here,

the ANC let things go so badly so quickly, and now they start trying to deflect.
the problem is you the ANC, always has and always will be a failiure at ALL you try run, from a Spaza shop to Eskom.


same thing will happen when the ANC is the opposition,
were perfect, were good, but you are the problem, whites,

gimme gimme gimme were black and useless for 27 years.
bl00dy Racists, and yes you CAN call Black people Racists,
 

Thugscub

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The idiots can't even fix a pothole. How are they expected to operate any type of business?
 

TheChamp

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Lol, this is a interesting one, he took a pay cut and doesn't indicate ambitions to what he has so short of them firing him, he has no personal need to resign save his personal honour which he's done nothing I've seen to compromise that.

What to do, what to do :D Don't think unions or government have ever faced that before :p
It is said that Eskom reduced the salary of the position, it doesn't necessarily mean it was a pay cut for De Ruyter.
 

Kosmik

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It is said that Eskom reduced the salary of the position, it doesn't necessarily mean it was a pay cut for De Ruyter.
If I recall, he offered to take it lower than his then current salary, could be wrong though.
 

TheChamp

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If I recall, he offered to take it lower than his then current salary, could be wrong though.
I think you are, most probably misled by people telling the story of him taking a pay cut over and over again as fact. We don't know if he did take a pay cut relative to his previous salary or not, all we know is that it wasn't the normal salary of the position.

I tried to correct the misconception previously, you can guess how it all went, instead of saying Dankie TheChamp I was viciously attacked and hounded out of the village.

 
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Kosmik

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This article tends to agree with the concept though.


Many others don't state the same though but doubt he is being paid that much in current role.

De Ruyter earned more than R18m at Nampak​

According to the Nampak annual report, De Ruyter earned almost R18.3m in 2018. His predecessor at Eskom, Phakamani Hadebe earned less than half of that amount last year, and De Ruyter has already agreed to take a pay cut, the department of public enterprises confirmed.
 

TheChamp

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This article tends to agree with the concept though.


Many others don't state the same though but doubt he is being paid that much in current role.
It's the first article I see that states that he is going to earn less than what he did at his previous job. It's also slightly odd that Phakamani earned such a low amount compared to what CEOs in big companies earn, that would imply he earned less that R9m and De Ruyter earns even less than that.

Maybe it's just basic salary without the perks, which would make the R18m for a basic salary exceptionally high.
 
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krycor

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Transparency.. it’s a beautiful thing when you give & get it.. To bad he didn’t and now stuck in an awkward situation hey.

Oh wait he doesn’t have to be transparent because? I think they need to own responsibility.. that’s what people are asking for. Not the pass the buck which is being offered like every other ceo but when they did it everyone rightfully critized.

I will lmao if before the end of the year we have a wet coal situation.. we are due for heavy rain.

Ps. He was ceo since Nov 2019, start date was mid Jan following year.... so that’s 10m + 11m.. I don’t claim to be genetically intelligent but that’s 21m (excl partial) since starting.

Please tell me how you get 10months or did he do nothing the 1st year.. so uhm.. you saying he is willing to say he did no maintenance for 11m? No?
 

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Oh an no.. as I said before, idiots call for his head. Others just expect answers so they build trust in the org which has offered very little.

This far he seems to be no different to others except he isn’t corrupt(we hope).
 

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Cosatu does not support him stepping down so it looks like it is NUM's individual position, what other union is calling for his removal?
 

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Cosatu does not support him stepping down so it looks like it is NUM's individual position, what other union is calling for his removal?
SAFTU also want him gone because he's some sort of privatisation harbinger. I think Eskom only have NUM and Solidaritiet as recognised unions.
 

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Dear article writer - on that table, please include number of MWh put into maintenance. I think that will completely change the picture :)
I just pulled all the numbers from the Eskom annual reports, and it shows that maintenance was the highest when EAF was the highest and load-shedding was non-existent. It was during the time when Matshela Koko was in charge of generation.

It is not what people want to hear, and he is accused of cooking the books, but I can not find any objective data to show that he was not good. You cannot fudge breakdowns and load-shedding.

Is there any data that shows that Andre de Ruyter is doing a good job on the generation side?
 

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Could have sworn i said this a while back. He's there so they can call on his removal for a company that will never be fixed, but will now forever have the excuse of "the white man couldn't fix it."
I never saw this ending another way.
 

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I just pulled all the numbers from the Eskom annual reports, and it shows that maintenance was the highest when EAF was the highest and load-shedding was non-existent. It was during the time when Matshela Koko was in charge of generation.

It is not what people want to hear, and he is accused of cooking the books, but I can not find any objective data to show that he was not good. You cannot fudge breakdowns and load-shedding.

Is there any data that shows that Andre de Ruyter is doing a good job on the generation side?
What is the credibility of those annual reports like? I mean they lie about everything. Serious question.
 

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I just pulled all the numbers from the Eskom annual reports, and it shows that maintenance was the highest when EAF was the highest and load-shedding was non-existent. It was during the time when Matshela Koko was in charge of generation.

It is not what people want to hear, and he is accused of cooking the books, but I can not find any objective data to show that he was not good. You cannot fudge breakdowns and load-shedding.

Is there any data that shows that Andre de Ruyter is doing a good job on the generation side?
Koko is a fukking thief, through and through. He had the luck of the draw re. load shedding.

I am fascinated that the CEO can not only be tasked to immediately stop load shedding, but also just fix infrastructure that hasn't been maintained for 27 years. He is only as effective as his ExCo and the technical managers on the ground.

He is there to manage and to try and stop the rot, so that maintenance can be done properly and within budget.

He is not a "sparky" and does not have to be one either.

At least he is not stealing and not corrupt, like practically ALL his predecessors.
 

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I just pulled all the numbers from the Eskom annual reports, and it shows that maintenance was the highest when EAF was the highest and load-shedding was non-existent. It was during the time when Matshela Koko was in charge of generation.

It is not what people want to hear, and he is accused of cooking the books, but I can not find any objective data to show that he was not good. You cannot fudge breakdowns and load-shedding.

Is there any data that shows that Andre de Ruyter is doing a good job on the generation side?
The Article needs to show the average electricity demand and total capacity for each year for a balanced picture. If the demand growth for power has outstripped the planned increase in total capacity it would help explain those figures.

Would also be useful to know how much of Eskom's current revenue is used to service debt versus what it was in all the preceding years.
 
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