TheChamp

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Koko is a fukking thief, through and through. He had the luck of the draw re. load shedding.

I am fascinated that the CEO can not only be tasked to immediately stop load shedding, but also just fix infrastructure that hasn't been maintained for 27 years. He is only as effective as his ExCo and the technical managers on the ground.

He is there to manage and to try and stop the rot, so that maintenance can be done properly and within budget.

He is not a "sparky" and does not have to be one either.

At least he is not stealing and not corrupt, like practically ALL his predecessors.
Does him being a thief make him incompetent? Is it possible that he can be a thief and also be good at the job? He is a qualified engineer and he has a long career at Eskom, he started there as a trainee and went through the ranks, all the way to the top.

Of course I am not necessarily saying he was good since there are plenty allegations against but responding to a technical analysis by saying he was a thief through and through is not exactly a compelling argument.

Just saying...
 

TheMightyQuinn

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Does him being a thief make him incompetent? Is it possible that he can be a thief and also be good at the job? He is a qualified engineer and he has a long career at Eskom, he started there as a trainee and went through the ranks, all the way to the top.

Of course I am not necessarily saying he was good since there are plenty allegations against but responding to a technical analysis by saying he was a thief through and through is not exactly a compelling argument.

Just saying...
Please tell me you are kidding...?

Only job he was good at is stealing.
 

Kosmik

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Ruyters job as ceo is around the exec strategy and implementation, especially procurement, which he made large in ways.
 

agentrfr

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I just pulled all the numbers from the Eskom annual reports, and it shows that maintenance was the highest when EAF was the highest and load-shedding was non-existent. It was during the time when Matshela Koko was in charge of generation.

It is not what people want to hear, and he is accused of cooking the books, but I can not find any objective data to show that he was not good. You cannot fudge breakdowns and load-shedding.

Is there any data that shows that Andre de Ruyter is doing a good job on the generation side?
You'll probably need to do a monthly GW in maintanence times months to get an annualized GW.months of capacity given to maintenance. I think most would be surprised to find that Jacob Maroga and Matshela Koko have probably done the most applied effort in prioritizing maintenance.

Too early to tell with De Ruyter I think... he seems to be more focused on cutting out corruption, and I think it can be debated whether maintenance or loadshedding are more pressing medium/long-term issues. He's just a single man doing what is in his power as a CEO. I think he is neither the angel not antichrist people are making him out to be.

Let the man finish a couple of years, and then judge him on that performance
 

killerbyte

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I am sorry, but the use of the "Staff Writer" is starting to irk me. I find it irksome.
I do not know if this article is the content of a press release or that someone actually wrote it.
If you cannot put your name to an article then it should not be published.

Just my personal 2c.
 

Major Boredom

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So I have this bright idea

Rank all municipalities for top to bottom based on Number of days for outstanding debt
Then if you need 10% load cutting turn off enough of the bottom feeders untill you get 10% savings
Need 30% load cutting , turn off enough bottom feeders to get 30%.

None of this 3 hours on/off . Just turn them off for the duration.
 

rpm

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What is the credibility of those annual reports like? I mean they lie about everything. Serious question.
I think it is the most credible data we have. If those reports are not accurate, there is no way to verify any facts.

The last resort is to only look at load-shedding, but it does not provide a lot of insight.
 

PaulMurkin

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I think it is the most credible data we have. If those reports are not accurate, there is no way to verify any facts.

The last resort is to only look at load-shedding, but it does not provide a lot of insight.
You are on the money about that... we are lied to about that the most.
Financials are above my pay grade, so hence my question
 

grok

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Well, its not that some people didn't warn that he was going to be used as a fall guy for when things turn bad, and..

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woulda you know it..
 

Oldfut

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Does him being a thief make him incompetent? Is it possible that he can be a thief and also be good at the job? He is a qualified engineer and he has a long career at Eskom, he started there as a trainee and went through the ranks, all the way to the top.

Of course I am not necessarily saying he was good since there are plenty allegations against but responding to a technical analysis by saying he was a thief through and through is not exactly a compelling argument.

Just saying...
Sounds a bit like Stoute Wouter Basson; all unproven allegations although, to be fair, they tried hard to nail ou Wouter and remains innocent. No charges against Mr Koko that I recall.
 

Conrad1950

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Dear article writer - on that table, please include number of MWh put into maintenance. I think that will completely change the picture :)
Exactly - planned/preventative maintenance was non existent, or at best, very limited!
 

Conrad1950

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No surprise, I recall this.
What does De Ruyter know about power... f0kkol. He can tell you about cardboard boxes, that's about it.
A good manager does not have to know the ins-and-outs of power generation if he has the correct management team at his disposal.
 

grok

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Does him being a thief make him incompetent? Is it possible that he can be a thief and also be good at the job? He is a qualified engineer and he has a long career at Eskom, he started there as a trainee and went through the ranks, all the way to the top.

Of course I am not necessarily saying he was good since there are plenty allegations against but responding to a technical analysis by saying he was a thief through and through is not exactly a compelling argument.

Just saying...

You sound like someone who would've voted for Zuma, twice.

There's an old wise saying that an old psychologist friend always tells me when I ignore red flags in a potential relationship.. the best prediction of future behaviour is past behaviour.

Maybe that's the reason the old NP was able to predict the ANC's future actions so accurately?
 

TheChamp

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You sound like someone who would've voted for Zuma, twice.

There's an old wise saying that an old psychologist friend always tells me when I ignore red flags in a potential relationship.. the best prediction of future behaviour is past behaviour.

Maybe that's the reason the old NP was able to predict the ANC's future actions so accurately?
You and your national party again, Yawwwnnn...:sleep:
 

SubtleBeast

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Looks as if the EFF are being retarded again...

That's not very PC of you.
I'd have used mentally challenged or mentally incompetent or mentally incapacitated, but I'm not sure if that's PC as well.
The EFF will EFF, but this time (like other times) it's a step too far.
The EFF will do well to censor this guy.
 
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