Unions push for R1,500 basic income grant in South Africa

[ShaunSA]

D00s actually.

ftfy

 

[KarlFranz]

This will be about race, we all know that. Previously disadvantaged first, but only certain previously disadvantaged. People who look like Jamnadas or Patty need not apply...

Yes, unfortunately.

 

[WizardOfAges]

ftfy

Thought we were friends.

 

[ShaunSA]

Thought we were friends.

I don't have friends. Except @I.am.Sam

No wait. Do **** buddies count as friends?

 

[WizardOfAges]

I don't have friends.

That explains a lot.

 

[PrimeSteak]

Unions push for R1,500 basic income grant in South Africa

South African Federation of Trade Unions (Saftu) general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi has called for the introduction of a R1,500 monthly grant aimed at South Africans over the age of 18 without work.

Reposting what I said in another thread about BIG:

Look, SA just doesn't have the finances for it rn. Actually, IMO, a BIG could work but

1. It should replace most of the current grants
2. It should have strict conditions that are heavily reinforced
3. Should act as an incentive to find jobs, become self-employed and not to become a gov-sponsored NEET

 

[KarlFranz]

Reposting what I said in another thread about BIG:

Look, SA just doesn't have the finances for it rn. Actually, IMO, a BIG could work but

1. It should replace most of the current grants
2. It should have strict conditions that are heavily reinforced
3. Should act as an incentive to find jobs, become self-employed and not to become a gov-sponsored NEET

I agree. My view on it as well.

 

[Lupus]

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With what money?

Don't worry the government pays it

 

[Convict]

I can see the ANC implementing this 2 months before the national election to ensure they get the votes to stay in power. The idea is unsustainable in the long run, but 2 months they will manage. This will be vote buying on a large scale.

 

[Polymathic]

So R1,500 will be worth what R350 is worth today?

 

[Polymathic]

I remember thinking about this a while back while on the toilet.

Essentially a basic will result in more essential goods becoming VAT free and to discourage the poor from spending money on non essentials we would see VAT increase to 25% on all non essential goods and that's not counting sugar tax and sin taxes.

 

[KarlFranz]

I remember thinking about this a while back while on the toilet.

Essentially a basic will result in more essential goods becoming VAT free and to discourage the poor from spending money on non essentials we would see VAT increase to 25% on all non essential goods and that's not counting sugar tax and sin taxes.

Now that was truly an enlightening session on the toilet.

 

[Gaz{M}]

"Unemployment has hit a record high of 34.4%, or 7.8 million jobless people"

7 800 000 x 1500 x 12 = R140.4 Billion a year.

Or a 10% increase in taxes for all taxpayers and VAT.

 

[Gaz{M}]

I remember thinking about this a while back while on the toilet.

Essentially a basic will result in more essential goods becoming VAT free and to discourage the poor from spending money on non essentials we would see VAT increase to 25% on all non essential goods and that's not counting sugar tax and sin taxes.

The problem is that we already pay VAT on plenty of "essential" non-essentials: Electricity, Security, Appliances etc.

 

[The_Librarian]

Reposting what I said in another thread about BIG:

Look, SA just doesn't have the finances for it rn. Actually, IMO, a BIG could work but

1. It should replace most of the current grants
2. It should have strict conditions that are heavily reinforced
3. Should act as an incentive to find jobs, become self-employed and not to become a gov-sponsored NEET

Agreed, and agreed, however...

grabbamint be like :

 

[The_Librarian]

Don't worry the government pays it

The location to the money-shedding tree is a highly classified and guarded secret.

 

[Mystic Twilight]

I remember thinking about this a while back while on the toilet.

Essentially a basic will result in more essential goods becoming VAT free and to discourage the poor from spending money on non essentials we would see VAT increase to 25% on all non essential goods and that's not counting sugar tax and sin taxes.

You're assuming the money will only be spent on basic goods. This is free cash, the people will spend it however they please and simply just get less stuff on the more expensive or taxed goods.

 

[neoprema]

Unions should push their staff to stop being lazy Bas.. then focus on getting more money.

 

[Hemi300c]

It so fascinating to see how such morons have such elite high powered positions..........

 

[Polymathic]

You're assuming the money will only be spent on basic goods. This is free cash, the people will spend it however they please and simply just get less stuff on the more expensive or taxed goods.

Did I mention how people are actually going to spend the money?