University of Pretoria student killed for his cellphone, 2 men arrested

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I am certain that it happens all the time, maybe the journalists also don't know? Sure we will find out soon.
It's likely yes that the media don't know. The crims have apparently appeared but I assume they have not pleaded so can't be named yet.
 

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It's likely yes that the media don't know. The crims have apparently appeared but I assume they have not pleaded so can't be named yet.
Plus there is really no motivation to push and find details, unfortunately when a case it's not high profile enough the media doesn't really go out of their way to dig for such details.
 

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The 2 charged with the murder is Bongani Sibiya (38) and William Seema Makgoba (33). Those are South African sounding names.


The one guy was the getaway driver. The other was the shooter.


PS. Do not search for Bongani Sibiya on facebook and click on the first result
 
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I have always wondered why the cops/security don't actively patrol the streets past midnight and search people wandering about? Sure, you will mostly get a lot of p*ssed of people complaining about their liberties but if it means you get to nab the one f*cker that is planning a murder/mugging like this and you get to save a life in the process, then it should be worthwhile?

RIP and condolences to the young man and his family - another life that was taken away too early

This is the reason the London Bobby on foot is still a huge deterrent to crime.
 

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Until you feel persecuted and (in my case because I'm not white) profiled when they drive past the white guy and pull up onto the sidewalk to question you. Yes, this happens to me a lot!

Hey jy, jou lang nai. Where are you going? Where are you coming from?
Me: first of all jou ma se po3s, secondly we can go to the station right now and we open counter crimen injuria cases against each other. Thirdly, unless you go and cross-question that white guy whom you passed and, instead, pulled your bakkie up in my face, I'm also going to open a case against you with IPID for harassment and police misconduct - preventing me from walking in a public space, without probable cause infringes on my constitutional right to freedom of movement.

It's loads of fun messing with them :D

I get racially profiled by beggars because I'm white. They clock me and make a bee line for me ignoring all the rich darker guys around them.
 

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Black or coloured. There are occasions where it would be police from Durbanville patrolling and most of those ****ers are white. I stay on the border of Kraaifontein and Durbanville (more toward KFTN)

That is one of the most confused borders there is. Langeberg Ridge falls under Kraaifontein municipal offices but under Durbanville police.
 

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Day in, day out...the same old story. Someone's short life (or older person, doesn't really matter) snuffed out for some cell phone.
How human life became so worthless in this country is anyone's guess :crying:

30 Years of ANC mismanagement. SA could compare it's crime rate to that of Switzerland in the 80's.
 

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They don't even do beat patrols in the day time. There's literally no policing they not on the streets and they not at the police station either.

Security will stop you atleast they did in the neighborhood I stayed in PE.

Security/CPF they were always about that action but it be like 1 CPF car without about 4 People patrolling two neighbourhoods.
I have always wondered why the cops/security don't actively patrol the streets past midnight and search people wandering about? Sure, you will mostly get a lot of p*ssed of people complaining about their liberties but if it means you get to nab the one f*cker that is planning a murder/mugging like this and you get to save a life in the process, then it should be worthwhile?

RIP and condolences to the young man and his family - another life that was taken away too early
 

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Our people duties is to give out case nos for insurance purposes. I see them more like barely literate security guards at insurance companies.
I'm not arguing but feel for the (minority) SAPS who are good people trying to do a difficult job. IMHO the worst cretins are the deployed ANC cadres / politically connected / corrupt individuals at "management" level and the "system" where criminality is rife. My interaction with SAPS has been reasonable and the one really bad one with a pale police reservist.
 

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I'm not arguing but feel for the (minority) SAPS who are good people trying to do a difficult job. IMHO the worst cretins are the deployed ANC cadres / politically connected / corrupt individuals at "management" level and the "system" where criminality is rife. My interaction with SAPS has been reasonable and the one really bad one with a pale police reservist.
The minority stands no chance, the mentality is such that there is generally opposition for any system that has been established by other races even if it works well and serves the people well. It has decayed to such an extent that you find ANC cadres/unions working against the very systems and measures put in place to benefit everyone of all race, religion and background. But because of the sheer spite and hatred that is being fed daily by politicians, it continues to destroy every state institution with some weird notion that it will be rebuilt from the ground up and with pride say we've done so. Black people working within state institutions are extremely politicized and racist which is counterproductive need I say more...
 

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I get racially profiled by beggars because I'm white. They clock me and make a bee line for me ignoring all the rich darker guys around them.
Thrust out your paw and say "Gimme money I'm from Zimbabwe" this totally blows them away. It somehow short circuits the brain fuses.
 

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When I lived in Grassy Park/Parkwood, I knew a guy that was shot for either a 50c or a R1 and a cigarette.
 
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