US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war - PART 2

[thestaggy]

Helicopters were taken out by basic RPG's back in Vietnam.

Is there any place for them with all the ground-to-air firepower available now ?

That is why the US conducts war the way they do.

First move is overwhelming force and securing undisputed air superiority. You just blast the enemy in to oblivion, with the goal being that you only have to deal with the leftovers when the close support and ground forces go in.

During the Gulf War, the air campaign to suppress Iraqi forces was longer than the ground campaign.

 

[Dave]

I sure as fck don't want to be a pilot. Sitting duck.

Don't worry comrade Uselesski, you can be a tank driver instead.

 

[daveza]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1502232208781762560

So let me get this right, anyone who fights for Russia is a combatant, anyone who fights for Ukraine is a mercenary ?

 

[GreatWmR]

 

[rietrot]

Most pics/videos of them don't seem to show any. Not even on videos from Russian sources iirc.

It appears at least one of those guys is wearing the correct uniform, so I'll give you that one.

 

[Unhappy438]

Well, how did they position that DJI Phantom so perfectly for the shot? The battery only lasts 20 or so minutes... But hey keep on believing everything you see

/strokes sandbag

Everything will be okay mate.

 

[The_Mowgs]

Where did I say it was one of their own?

So what is your ROFL explanation then for that video? Wait, let me guess. Its either Lego or a green screen.

 

[Unhappy438]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1502221544499601411

 

[Mirai]

In the Ukraine Conflict, Fake Fact-Checks Are Being Used to Spread Disinformation

Social media posts debunking purported Ukrainian disinformation are themselves fake. That doesn’t stop them from being featured on Russian state TV.

www.propublica.org

Researchers at Clemson University's Media Forensics Hub and ProPublica identified more than a dozen videos that purport to debunk apparently nonexistent Ukrainian fakes. The videos have racked up more than 1 million views across pro-Russian channels on the messaging app Telegram, and have garnered thousands of likes and retweets on Twitter. A screenshot from one of the fake debunking videos was broadcast on Russian state TV, while another was spread by an official Russian government Twitter account.

The goal of the videos is to inject a sense of doubt among Russian-language audiences as they encounter real images of wrecked Russian military vehicles and the destruction caused by missile and artillery strikes in Ukraine, according to Patrick Warren, an associate professor at Clemson who co-leads the Media Forensics Hub. "The reason that it's so effective is because you don't actually have to convince someone that it's true. It's sufficient to make people uncertain as to what they should trust," said Warren, who has conducted extensive research into Russian internet trolling and disinformation campaigns. "In a sense they are convincing the viewer that it would be possible for a Ukrainian propaganda bureau to do this sort of thing."

 

[thestaggy]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1502221544499601411

The Russian version of Der Untergang is going to be a must watch.

 

[Mirai]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1502126075471671298

 

[PrimeSteak]

It has to do with him making statements like this:

Oh ok, thx for the clarification

 

[Mirai]

A number of African countries will be hit with famine in the next 6-12 months due to this war.
Famine is weather related right?

Thank Russia.

 

[PrimeSteak]

And I would rather be everything you accuse me of than the manchild you are....

I'd rather be everything you accuse me of than be the holier-than-thou, disdainful idiot with a superiority complex who justifies old people getting blown up by armoured vehicles.

Cuts both ways m8

so lets call it even.

Ok, agreed. Armistice signed.

 

[daveza]

The Russian version of Der Untergang is going to be a must watch.

So his A team is out of play, call in the B team.

Sounds like a great plan.

 

[thestaggy]

In the Ukraine Conflict, Fake Fact-Checks Are Being Used to Spread Disinformation

Social media posts debunking purported Ukrainian disinformation are themselves fake. That doesn’t stop them from being featured on Russian state TV.

www.propublica.org

Researchers at Clemson University's Media Forensics Hub and ProPublica identified more than a dozen videos that purport to debunk apparently nonexistent Ukrainian fakes. The videos have racked up more than 1 million views across pro-Russian channels on the messaging app Telegram, and have garnered thousands of likes and retweets on Twitter. A screenshot from one of the fake debunking videos was broadcast on Russian state TV, while another was spread by an official Russian government Twitter account.

The goal of the videos is to inject a sense of doubt among Russian-language audiences as they encounter real images of wrecked Russian military vehicles and the destruction caused by missile and artillery strikes in Ukraine, according to Patrick Warren, an associate professor at Clemson who co-leads the Media Forensics Hub. "The reason that it's so effective is because you don't actually have to convince someone that it's true. It's sufficient to make people uncertain as to what they should trust," said Warren, who has conducted extensive research into Russian internet trolling and disinformation campaigns. "In a sense they are convincing the viewer that it would be possible for a Ukrainian propaganda bureau to do this sort of thing."

War-time propaganda is nothing new.

Do you really think 300 Spartans stood against 1 million+ Persians?

 

[daveza]

War-time propaganda is nothing new.

Do you really think 300 Spartans stood against 1 million+ Persians?

100% true,

I saw the movie!

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

Psychological warfare.

The husbands of the pregnant women and the fathers of the newborns are fighting against Russia.

Instill fear, make them reluctant to fight.

Same strategy used by Russians in Chechnya and Syria.

Putin is the motive.

Delusions.

 

[LetsDance]

Russia is like a cat playing with mice - a tap here, a flick there. If it really wants to get serious, it just has to use bombers.

 

[thestaggy]

So his A team is out of play, call in the B team.

Sounds like a great plan.

He's a strongman. Things are not going his way but he can't blame himself, so lash out.