US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war - PART 2

[Spizz]

Don't worry.. It will be touted as truth again next week... This biolabs bollocks has been ridiculed at least twice before in this thread alone.

This was half an hour ago. They are lapping it up. If it wasn't so sad it would be funny.

They are real and there’s evidence of US funding, they were up to something. We not talking school or uni labs, these were proper dangerous bio labs with highly toxic man made pathogens.

 

[tetrasect]

It's easier for me to keep up with the thread right now because I've started skipping past posts from the usual suspects... It's always the same shyte on the wall, presented as art, in an infinite loop.

My view of the thread has cleared up nicely by just adding 2 or 3 people to my ignore list.

Now the only evidence of their existence I see, is evidence that I made the right decision.

 

[Gramps66]

I’m supporting Russia not flattening Ukraine.

You are undecided because, you know, history, fake news, that drone was conveniently placed, Azov brigade (who you’d probably join if they were white South Africans) and more importantly, because you are sitting in your bedroom pontificating without a care I’m the world.

There you go...if someone doesn't conform to your point of view , he must be a Nazi or far right wing. The mainstream narrative. Didn't take much to bring it out of you.

 

[Major Boredom]

My view of the thread has cleared up nicely by just adding 2 or 3 people to my ignore list.

Now the only evidence of their existence I see, is evidence that I made the right decision.

Roflmao ...
Some of them took great exception when out pointed out that this thread was a great way to find all the ANC supporters that now have to payback their Russian debts

 

[Spizz]

There you go...if someone doesn't conform to your point of view , he must be a Nazi or far right wing. The mainstream narrative. Didn't take much to bring it out of you.

My point is about calling out other people for following a narrative they are being fed while being guilty of it yourself. Nothing more.

 

[sefeddt]

Russia and her lapdog Cuba got their asses whipped at the Battle of the Lomba River. Don't come with BS propoganda stories. Myself and my brother were part of that battle. Go to the Jhb war museum and see the uniform of the Russian officer we captured in an operation before the Lomba River.
Russia and Puta don't meddle in other countries affairs. Tell me another BS story.
Puta and his criminals need to be shot at dawn.

The hundreds of green East German "cabbage" trucks captured, filled with food supplies made a tasty treat as alternate to ration packs.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

the very definition of fascism is a system where opposition and dissent is not allowed

guess what you are supporting? ...

So you're talking about Russia then?

 

[sefeddt]

They are real and there’s evidence of US funding, they were up to something. We not talking school or uni labs, these were proper dangerous bio labs with highly toxic man made pathogens.

What have you done with the evidence you have.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

They have been surrounding Kyiv for days now, they should get in there and take out Zelensky, he’s living on borrowed time.

I thought he was living in Poland?

 

[Nicodeamus]

Seems fair. Sorry, remind me how they provoked Russia?

2 US instigated coup d'états in 10 years
An ultranationalist government the president said that Russian children shouldn't go to school and Russians pensioners should get their retirement.
Zelensky just after getting elected saying that he wants to take back Crimea, if necessary by war.
John McCain handing out weapons to the insurgence and promising them congressional support "if they go on the offense".
Victoria Nuland (major Neocon) wanting to hand pick the government
The ultranationalist government making Stepan Bandera, a nazi collaborator who was so extreme that even the Gestapo locked him up, a national hero.
Ukraine kicking the Russian fleet out of crimea despite it having a long term lease and a federal policy.
The bombing of the dombas population.


The list of idiotic actions just goes on.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

We have our QAnon member here. Thought I had to visit Reddit for the latest crazy conspiracy theories.. but not anymore.

We have a few. JFK Jr. will be arriving soon to save the day

 

[Thugscub]

The hundreds of green East German "cabbage" trucks captured, filled with food supplies made a tasty treat as alternate to ration packs.

Tinned food from the Scandinavian countries.

 

[IndigoIdentity]

How is the DA actually going to the Embassy to officially give support to Ukraine, virtue signalling?

Oh, wait, I don't like it so it's virtue signalling...

To be fair, it seems that everyone is signalling for their own virtues.

 

[sefeddt]

They have been surrounding Kyiv for days now, they should get in there and take out Zelensky, he’s living on borrowed time.

Seems to be doing OK.

How Volodymyr Zelensky Defended Ukraine and United the World

Ukraine and its leader seemed to transcend their roles as victims of Russia's aggression

time.com

 

[Spizz]

2 US instigated coup d'états in 10 years
An ultranationalist government the president said that Russian children shouldn't go to school and Russians pensioners should get their retirement.
Zelensky just after getting elected saying that he wants to take back Crimea, if necessary by war.
John McCain handing out weapons to the insurgence and promising them congressional support "if they go on the offense".
Victoria Nuland (major Neocon) wanting to hand pick the government
The ultranationalist government making Stepan Bandera, a nazi collaborator who was so extreme that even the Gestapo locked him up, a national hero.
Ukraine kicking the Russian fleet out of crimea despite it having a long term lease and a federal policy.
The bombing of the dombas population.


The list of idiotic actions just goes on.

Says you. I want links for each one and each each link backed up with verifiable proof. Not from Twitter, not from a blogger, not from MSM.

 

[Nicodeamus]

Says you. I want links for each one and each each link backed up with verifiable proof. Not from Twitter, not from a blogger, not from MSM.

Lots of links were given in this thread
But as a start.

The History Behind the Russia-Ukraine War - Antiwar.com Original

The following is adapted from a speech Scott gave to the Libertarian Party of Utah on February 26, 2022. Just to get this out of the way first real quick: - Scott Horton for Antiwar.com Original

original.antiwar.com

And on the media bias here with links attached.

What You Should Really Know About Ukraine - FAIR

Media echoed the view that the US should have an active role in Ukrainian politics and enforce its perspective through military threats.

fair.org

As political turmoil engulfed the country in the leadup to 2014, the US was fueling anti-government sentiment through mechanisms like USAID and National Endowment for Democracy (NED), just as they had done in 2004. In December 2013, Nuland, assistant secretary of state for European affairs and a long-time regime change advocate, said that the US government had spent $5 billion promoting “democracy” in Ukraine since 1991. The money went toward supporting “senior officials in the Ukraine government…[members of] the business community as well as opposition civil society” who agree with US goals.

Oliver Stone's film "Ukraine is one fire" is also a good introduction on the event leading up to the war.

There is unfortunately a lot of hypocrisy involved.

 

[greg0205]

To be fair, it seems that everyone is signalling for their own virtues.

Incorrect.

I'm really a fan of being labelled a virtue signaller.

See, for me, virtue is the decency your mother and grandmother taught you as a kid, and living that life as an adult makes you someone I'd like to know.

Raging against virtue makes you a vice signaller... An adult who spits on the decency they learned from their mother and grandmother as a kid.

And there are plenty of vice signallers on MyBB.

They're invariably on the same side of every contentious issue in N&CA... In this instance, it's one Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.

 

[Mirai]

I'm just amazed how comfortable they are in their gullibility? It's quite incredible to watch.

It's the same BS.

Oh but US bombed Iraq, so OK for Moscow to bomb and destroy Ukraine.
Or
Americans bombed a German city to spare their troops having to fight Nazis door to door, in a total all out war, where daily the Nazis were still killing civilians in death camps, and that wasn't condemned in a grande fashion by people who just came out of the war with no homes, dead or injured relatives and heck on earth.

We have childish naive arguments made by children who think war is like a movie from Hollywood who have a hard on for Russia because of personal connections or perhaps they just hate the West and want to give it to the West by supporting Russia or think Russia is some defender of conservative values. Anyone who looks at that country would actually state the opposite.


It's ridiculous that one has to figure out that invading a sovereign nation is NO OK. And if the West does nothing it will only EMBOLDEN Russia. And that other countries will be next and then we may have direct WW3. Ukrainians are fighting to prevent WW3. Because if Russians win and the West stops the sanctions they will advance further. Russia has plans to be the No 1 power in Eurasia. It will cause Europe to be dominated by them.
It will ultimately lead to war with China. It will lead to more misery on a mass scale.

 

[Mirai]

Lots of links were given in this thread
But as a start.

The History Behind the Russia-Ukraine War - Antiwar.com Original

The following is adapted from a speech Scott gave to the Libertarian Party of Utah on February 26, 2022. Just to get this out of the way first real quick: - Scott Horton for Antiwar.com Original

original.antiwar.com

And on the media bias here with links attached.

What You Should Really Know About Ukraine - FAIR

Media echoed the view that the US should have an active role in Ukrainian politics and enforce its perspective through military threats.

fair.org

Oliver Stone's film "Ukraine is one fire" is also a good introduction on the event leading up to the war.

There is unfortunately a lot of hypocrisy involved.

One sided links which ONLY take insatiable Russian imperialism as the only de facto standard and the reasoning is that America should ideally isolate and let our Russian and Chinese overlords dictate everything. I can see how that would work in South Africa where we would see the gov copying Russian and Chinese methods because those seem to be the de facto world standard.

Of course Nico Nico sits in France, supposedly, he travels a lot around Eastern Europe. He's not a friend of the West nor of South Africa where he will just then say, well the former colonists should go back home to Netherlands or UK and enjoy Russian caviar and vodka there.

 

[IndigoIdentity]

Doing the right thing and annoying the ANC at the same time, gotta love it

Well Cray, I seldom tend to agree with you. But I will say that you do in this instance have a good spirit