US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war - PART 2

[Pak Fa Fui]

That the memorial site was damaged, is accurate. The museum which is situated on the memorial grounds was hit, how is that propaganda? There is clearly a spin in that article you have posted.

The communications tower, I mean,

nobody reported it as being destroyed, the Ukrainian government themselves reported that they will restore communications at the soonest. A statement that I have conveyed here.

Here is the typical person driving the narrative,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498708646066376708

The tower wasn’t hit and neither was the memorial site.

 

[thestaggy]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499220599209697287

If anybody still thinks the separatists are just some disgruntled Ukrainians that found old weapons lying around, I have a bridge to sell them.

Nobody expected Ukraine to halt the Russians and drive them back.

Russia is the one that portrays itself as a first rate military super power, so they better steamroll Ukraine.

 

[buka001]

Remember when Zelensky told normal people to do something. What did people think was going to happen.

I've seen one video already with 5 dead, not sure if this is the same vid he's referencing.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498857257496416260

And yet pro gun lobby in the USA will insist the guns are to fight against an oppressive state or invading state.

Your AR-15 is ineffective against a tank.

 

[ShaunSA]

'Tsek RussianBots... Can't you tell his grey hair and receding hairline are from radiation poisoning from within his inner circle?...

I reckon it's his mistress poisoning him... arsenic

 

[rietrot]

And yet pro gun lobby in the USA will insist the guns are to fight against an oppressive state or invading state.

Your AR-15 is ineffective against a tank.

At some point the guys in the tank needs to get out.

 

[thestaggy]

It's like the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. Everyone knew what the outcome would be, but the Polish Jews who fought back is what is memorialised. Nobody other than the Nazis focused on the Nazis response to the uprising. People cared more about the resistance.

Same with the French Resistance in WW2. Their exploits are what is focused on, not the successes of any Nazi counter insurgency operation in France.

It's the same concept here. And people with pro-Russian bias are naturally the ones I see who are interested in watching the paint dry here.

It's not "news" when Russian destroy Ukrainian military hardware. Thats expected. It's like telling me there is traffic on the N1 between JHB and PTA at 8am during the week.

Please don't remind me. I have to make that trip tomorrow. I think I'd rather get shelled than deal with South African road users on the N1.

 

[Deleted member 369928]

If anybody still thinks the separatists are just some disgruntled Ukrainians that found old weapons lying around, I have a bridge to sell them.

Nobody expected Ukraine to halt the Russians and drive them back.

Russia is the one that portrays itself as a first rate military super power, so they better steamroll Ukraine.

Unlike USA, UAE, Suadi... Russia has respect for human life. They could easily just bomb the living sht out of the cities, kill civilians etc. Instead they choose not to, and thus you see slow progression.

 

[Gyre]

They don't care.

They saw Twitter post of old ladies making molotov cocktails and it was emotional and inspiring.

So now they are running with it. Without a second thought because there is no thought only emotion.

If you try and burst their bubble you are a Russian bot.

Rather you don't care. Don't fight the attackers, sit at home and get bombed instead. Starve, have no power, get no salary, have no internet, stay indoors because Putin is coming to get all the nazis.

 

[access]

its funny all news places crying something along the lines of "there has not been an invasion of another like this since world war 2!!! "

i mean.. the first few that comes to mind is vietnam... iraq... weapons of mass destruction!!!... saudi bombing the crap out of yemen... lol

 

[Nicodeamus]

Unlike USA, UAE, Suadi... Russia has respect for human life. They could easily just bomb the living sht out of the cities, kill civilians etc. Instead they choose not to, and thus you see slow progression.

There is a desperate attempt to turn Russia into the Nazis. Even the bombing of Khersov (that was quite instense) had a low death roll. The Nazis would have flattened it.

 

[thestaggy]

Unlike USA, UAE, Suadi... Russia has respect for human life. They could easily just bomb the living sht out of the cities, kill civilians etc. Instead they choose not to, and thus you see slow progression.

They may be attempting to limit casualties, they are after all fighting through parts of Ukraine with large ethnic Russian and Russian-speaking populations (You can't kill the people you claim you are there to protect now can you?), but there is enough evidence to suggest that they may be experiencing morale and logistic issues. They are also leaving large amounts of equipment standing around without air cover, which is major military 'no-no'.

 

[Wut]

its funny all news places crying something along the lines of "there has not been an invasion of another like this since world war 2!!! "

i mean.. the first few that comes to mind is vietnam... iraq... weapons of mass destruction!!!... saudi bombing the crap out of yemen... lol


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When it's in Europe it's different. Apparently...

 

[Vorastra]

And yet pro gun lobby in the USA will insist the guns are to fight against an oppressive state or invading state.

Your AR-15 is ineffective against a tank.

We aren't talking about the people who signed up and were being given rifles.

We're talking about the common citizens who were told to make homemade Molotovs by the president, who then tried it yesterday like retards and got shredded.

 

[rietrot]

Rather you don't care. Don't fight the attackers, sit at home and get bombed instead. Starve, have no power, get no salary, have no internet, stay indoors because Putin is coming to get all the nazis.

Exactly my point. This is just an emotional response devoid of logic and reason.

 

[Vorastra]

its funny all news places crying something along the lines of "there has not been an invasion of another like this since world war 2!!! "

i mean.. the first few that comes to mind is vietnam... iraq... weapons of mass destruction!!!... saudi bombing the crap out of yemen... lol


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Yugoslavia sitting in the corner like...

 

[buka001]

When did Russia invade the US? What's our trade with Ukraine like?

All the pro-Russians are saying SA shouldn't upset Russia because it will damage SA economically, yet SA trade with the US, UK, Japan and EU massively outweighs that trade. If the argument was truly about economic trade, then SA should align with the countries that oppose Russia.

 

[Deleted member 369928]

They may be attempting to limit casualties, they are after all fighting through parts of Ukraine with large ethnic Russian and Russian-speaking populations (You can't kill the people you claim you are there to protect now can you?), but there is enough evidence to suggest that they may be experiencing morale and logistic issues. They are also leaving large amounts of equipment standing around without air cover, which is major military 'no-no'.

Or maybe they just went there to get rid of the bioweapon labs funded by USA. Who knows.

 

[rietrot]

All the pro-Russians are saying SA shouldn't upset Russia because it will damage SA economically, yet SA trade with the US, UK, Japan and EU massively outweighs that trade. If the argument was truly about economic trade, then SA should align with the countries that oppose Russia.

Who is at war here.

Is it Russia vs. Ukraine
Or is it Russia vs. NATO

I thought NATO and the US have nothing to do with this. They are just a peaceful defensive alliance and Ukraine is not part of it.

 

[Pak Fa Fui]

Has Kyiv been taken yet?

 

[Vorastra]

It's the same concept here. And people with pro-Russian bias are naturally the ones I see who are interested in watching the paint dry here.

Anyone who isn't vehemently a Ukrainian acolyte is obviously pro-Russian.

Am I pro-Russian?