US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war - PART 2

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Vorastra said:
I don't give an F about either side in this.
I want to know what's happening, not what some biased sht heads want it to look like.

If I wanted that I'd just sit in the pro-Ukrainian telegrams that I'm part of.
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And exactly how do you plan to virtue signal if you don't pick a side?

Speaking of which. Who on MyBB has changed their lamebook dp yet?

Those "I got vaxxed" ones are so 2020
 
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Vorastra said:
Ka-52 in Melitopol. Allegedly this morning.

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Where there is one, there should be more. In the US military, the army would have 4-5 similar attack helicopters, but can be larger pending on the aviation role per each platoon. The platoon and battalion(s), must be close. This is Southern Ukraine, the Kherson push, didn't the Russians already take Melitopol?
 
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Emjay said:
Yeah, I am with you on this one. Syria too. The US bombed civilian infrastructure (a dam) and the world did not blink. The media even let the USA get away with this lie and only recently came out. Innocent civilians were blown up and the world barely blinked. The stuff happening in Afghanistan is imo more terrifying than what is going on in Ukraine right now and besides the celebrations of the US troops pulling out, there has not been a single mention of what is happening there here or on any MSM.

The propaganda machine is in full effect. All this outrage wouldn't feel so fake and false if anyone of the moral inquisitors in here spoke about the atrocities being committed all the time. We even had people who are in this thread right now lament on how Afghanistan was a **** hole some time ago.

A Propaganda Model, by Noam Chomsky (Excerpted from Manufacturing Consent)

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Maybe because the world is getting tired of Russian BS? Russia never apologised for being USSR. But it still behaves like the USSR. Russia does not want countries around it to become democratic and more Western.

Well it's not the 1970s anymore. Even Brezhnev knew he was licked and was going to let Eastern Europe go. Imperialism is not on anymore. It wasn't in the 1980s already. It seems that Putin has not learned the lesson that Brezhnev, Andropov and Gorbachev learned.

It's time for Russia to become democratic. No more communist BS. No more Tsarist BS.
 
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Mirai said:
Maybe because the world is getting tired of Russian BS? Russia never apologised for being USSR. But it still behaves like the USSR. Russia does not want countries around it to become democratic and more Western.

Well it's not the 1970s anymore. Even Brezhnev knew he was licked and was going to let Eastern Europe go. Imperialism is not on anymore. It wasn't in the 1980s already. It seems that Putin has not learned the lesson that Brezhnev, Andropov and Gorbachev learned.

It's time for Russia to become democratic. No more communist BS. No more Tsarist BS.
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You tell him! :love:

I'm sure your strongly worded letter is being delivered to the Kremlin as we speak :cool:

It should reach right after the UN one
 
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tetrasect said:
We start supporting Russia and next thing you know we are getting hammered with sanctions as well.

A friend of my enemy is my enemy and all that.
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You just confirmed with Rietrot said.

At least all pretenses have dropped now. Even someone coming out as pro-regime change.
 
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How German militarism is exploiting the Ukraine war

Jasper von Altenbockum, writing in the conservative Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung ( FAZ ), mocked the “West German tradition of letting others pay for security, underneath whose umbrella it was easy to moralise.” Now, post-1945 German idealism was proving to be “a historical error, a deception, the moral and material failure of a generation” that was looking for a vocabulary “to find its way out of the provincialism of its peace illusions and back into the centre of world affairs.”

FAZ co-editor Berthold Kohler, one of the worst warmongers in the German media, even explicitly thanked Putin—confirming the WSWS assessment that Ukraine has served as bait for NATO to lure Russia into a war.

“If it didn’t sound cynical, one would almost have to be grateful to the Russian president for bringing German foreign and security policy out of its cloud cuckoo land and down to earth,” Kohler commented in the FAZ on 27 February. The Social Democratic Party (SPD) was now “vacating old positions so quickly that even Moscow is probably having trouble following.” The SPD’s opposition to the two percent of GDP target on military spending, the continuation of nuclear sharing, the procurement of armed drones all this was now “water under the bridge.”
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How German militarism is exploiting the Ukraine war

While the Russian invasion of Ukraine has unleashed horror and fear of a third world war in broad sections of the German population, those in ruling circles are reacting completely differently. <br><br> Behind their loud moral indignation and denunciation of President Putin lies a barely...
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Pak Fa Fui said:
It’s to push up the civilian casualty rates. The Ukraine are forcing men to fight but not arming them. It’s a slaughterhouse, well not yet.
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Its like a sick game of live chess, expendable pawns being sacrificed , while the stronger pieces are held back as not to lose them.
Then crying foul because civilians are being killed, while those deaths are then turned into propaganda to suit the cause.
 
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ShaunSA said:
You tell him! :love:

I'm sure your strongly worded letter is being delivered to the Kremlin as we speak :cool:

It should reach right after the UN one
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He is feeling Western resistance to this. Don't worry. Other countries are watching the lackluster Russian army performance and incompetence. Do you think Chechnya will stay Russian if Putin runs low on money? Saudis or someone else may decide to support the Muslims there or maybe the West.

Putin burned all his bridges with the West. It's not going back to how it was before even if he defeats Ukraine. Sanctions will stay. The west doesn't want this rubbish so close to their border.

It's one thing for Russia to sh-t in Syria but to sh-t a few kilometers from Western Europe is not going to work. He finally crossed the line.

I think you also misunderstood what I said. I'm echoing what the West is doing. Russia needs to behave like an European country. They should copy India or Pakistan.
 
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Fulcrum29 said:
Where there is one, there should be more. In the US military, the army would have 4-5 similar attack helicopters, but can be larger pending on the aviation role per each platoon. The platoon and battalion(s), must be close. This is Southern Ukraine, the Kherson push, didn't the Russians already take Melitopol?
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As far as I know Melitopol has been taken. Maybe the Ka-52 is moving through to assist with the attack in Zaporizhia or Enerhodar?
 
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