US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war - PART 2

[Emjay]

Zero search results for "Ukraine", anything you wish to highlight?

What makes you think I want to engage with you any further?

You have a piano. Go strike those keys.

 

[Emjay]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499228429648027650

 

[Grant]

The USA has a long history of regime change using overt and covert methods. You can interpret it how you like. I hear the discussion and hear USA's meddling.

United States involvement in regime change - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sure, I'm certainly not denying the USA's consistent meddling in the internal affairs of other nations.
The CIA was very active in our own country during the 80s and early 90s.

What I am saying is the USA did not carry out a coup, the wiki link you provided underscores that.
Involvement in regime change by no means equates to a coup.
Were that the case, the United Kingdom would be as guilty as the USA (and Russia) in carrying out a coup here in 1994.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

Russia ready to talk; won’t stop targeting Ukraine military​

Russia attacks Ukraine nuclear plant as invasion advances

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Russian forces shelled Europe’s largest nuclear plant early Friday, sparking a fire as they pressed their attack on a crucial energy-producing Ukrainian city and gained ground in their bid to cut off the country from the sea.

apnews.com

What does this mumbo jumbo even mean from Sergey Lierov..

The guy is a master. Don't knock him. He knows what he's doing

 

[brilliantt]

This is cherry picking. Russia is also white supremacist and racist. China is China racist and supremacist.

These are isolated countries which have always been homogenous. They are not racist in the sense they had the slave trade, colonies, exploited blacks/Indians/Native Americans/Asians but they just aren't PC. That's all. The West is PC. It's unfair to say they are racist because of this, because they have a war of survival right now, and because before this, many thousands of black/Indian/Asian students would attend their universities and med schools and they enjoyed doing it. If it was a racist country they wouldn't be there in the first place.

They are not politically correct, that's all. Neither are the Chinese. What happened during Covid-19? Blacks in China were accused of spreading Covid19.



African Union needs to fix the problems of Africa. With so many despots and so much corruption and war and rape and misery, they should fix these problems and they have so far done little. It's however easy to issue statements and get paid for it.



Because they fell asleep at the wheel.



Dude it's a freaking war. There is no racism. If you call that racism than the whole world outside of the West is like this. You think Indians are PC to black people? You think Chinese like other races? We also know some students can be entitled because in the West people are PC, some youngsters may get the idea they are privileged and push people whose country is literally bombed into the stone age around. Have you ever been in a war situation? Do you understand what that's like?

If they were so racist why are foreign students there? They weren't. They're just different.

"Have you ever been in a war situation?" You and I agree on that, and that is really what annoys the hell out of me. According to me, all this was avoidable if people would just do their jobs and extract people before the war actually starts. Trust me, I am really angry and frustrated that citizens were left in such a situation, rather than that the Ukrainians behaved less than friendly.

 

[Fulcrum29]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499348485161857027

NEW: Ukraine's armed forces said 16,000 foreign military volunteers are coming to the country to help fight off the Russian invasion: statement President Zelensky established an "international legion" for foreign military volunteers to fight for Ukraine earlier this week.

 

[Emjay]

Sure, I'm certainly not denying the USA's consistent meddling in the internal affairs of other nations.
The CIA was very active in our own country during the 80s and early 90s.

What I am saying is the USA did not carry out a coup, the wiki link you provided underscores that.
Involvement in regime change by no means equates to a coup.
Were that the case, the United Kingdom would be as guilty as the USA (and Russia) in carrying out a coup here in 1994.

The USA never left its cold war mindset. This is very evident. They have been meddling there for decades. I am not saying there is hard and fast proof. I am however very confident the USA helped engineer an outcome which was more suited and favourable to their agenda. Just as Russia will be agitating and causing the Russian speaking residents to separate.

 

[The Trutherizer]

The USA never left its cold war mindset. This is very evident. They have been meddling there for decades. I am not saying there is hard and fast proof. I am however very confident the USA helped engineer an outcome which was more suited and favourable to their agenda. Just as Russia will be agitating and causing the Russian speaking residents to separate.

... followed by waging brutal war for base territorial conquest if needed ---> Putin's personal ego project to re-establish Soviet era borders.

Cold war vs Middle Age mindsets.

 

[Charlesjjm]

The USA has a long history of regime change using overt and covert methods. You can interpret it how you like. I hear the discussion and hear USA's meddling.

United States involvement in regime change - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Small difference between meddling and coup, don't you think?

 

[Fulcrum29]

Happened yesterday, don't know if it was already posted,

OSCE mourns death of National Mission Member of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine

VIENNA/WARSAW – Maryna Fenina, a national member of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM), died in shelling in Kharkiv yesterday, 1 March. OSCE Chairman-in-Office and Foreign Minister of Poland Zbigniew Rau and OSCE Secretary General Helga Maria Schmid extend their most heartfelt...

www.osce.org

OSCE mourns death of National Mission Member of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine​

VIENNA/WARSAW – Maryna Fenina, a national member of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM), died in shelling in Kharkiv yesterday, 1 March.

OSCE Chairman-in-Office and Foreign Minister of Poland Zbigniew Rau and OSCE Secretary General Helga Maria Schmid extend their most heartfelt condolences to Maryna’s loved ones, as well as to the SMM as a whole:

“Our deepest condolences and sympathies go to Maryna’s family. Maryna was a valued member of the SMM team, and our colleagues in Ukraine remain in close contact with her family to offer our support.”

“Maryna was killed while getting supplies for her family in a city that has become a war zone. In Kharkiv and other cities and towns in Ukraine, missiles, shells and rockets are hitting residential buildings and town centers, killing and injuring innocent civilians – women, men and children alike."

"Despite repeated calls from across the international community, and from across the OSCE, the unprovoked military operation against Ukraine continues. We strongly condemn the increased shelling in urban areas centres causing death and injury to civilians and reiterate our call on the Russian Federation for an immediate cessation of hostilities and to engage in a meaningful dialogue."

I wonder what Russia's excuse will be for killing an observer? Now, it is a job which comes at an incredible high-risk, but she wasn't being held hostage by a Nationalist other than the city she resided in being held hostage by an active aggressor.

Russia’s hands are covered in their neighbour's blood.

 

[Grant]

The USA never left its cold war mindset. This is very evident. They have been meddling there for decades. I am not saying there is hard and fast proof. I am however very confident the USA helped engineer an outcome which was more suited and favourable to their agenda. Just as Russia will be agitating and causing the Russian speaking residents to separate.

Absolutely. The USA will help engineer change anywhere if it suits their objectives. They will dress up their involvement differently and sprinkle glitter and sequins on it to curry favour.

 

[Kosmik]

Isn't a war cime to just execute soldiers that surrender?

Kinda expected from Ukraine.

There was a post in the other thread a while back of soldiers or combatants being executed. I think it was Ukraine but I also think its was supposedly subversives disguised as Ukrainian, so not soldiers in uniform.

 

[DreamKing]

Snake Island: Ukraine says soldiers killed after refusing to surrender​

Snake Island: Ukraine says soldiers killed after refusing to surrender

Ukraine says the soldiers died defending a tiny island after refusing to surrender to a Russian ship.

www.bbc.com

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Ukraine war: Snake Island border guards are alive and well, says Ukrainian navy​

Snake Island border guards are alive and well, says Ukrainian navy

The 13 border guards were initially reported dead after refusing to surrender to Russian forces and swearing at them.

www.euronews.com

 

[rambo919]

Absolutely. The USA will help engineer change anywhere if it suits their objectives. They will dress up their involvement differently and sprinkle glitter and sequins on it to curry favour.

So by your way of thinking.... it's OK if you just manipulate someone into suicide but not OK if you do the job yourself.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Snake Island: Ukraine says soldiers killed after refusing to surrender​

Snake Island: Ukraine says soldiers killed after refusing to surrender

Ukraine says the soldiers died defending a tiny island after refusing to surrender to a Russian ship.

www.bbc.com

That entire article is a written mess to be honest, the Ukrainian Border Guard reported on the 26th already that there is hope for the defenders of Zmiinyi to be still alive. The media swallowed social media horseschittery, and ran it for clicks and views.

 

[Emjay]

Here is a summary of all yesterday's maneuvers:

Institute for the Study of War

Russian forces resumed offensive operations in support of their envelopment of Kyiv on March 2 but made few territorial advances. Russian forces resumed offensive operations on both axes of advance toward Kyiv after largely pausing for 72 hours to

www.understandingwar.org

 

[Temujin]

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Dangerous enemy of the state

I have no doubt that all the trudeau ring licking cancel cult members that were about a few weeks back are in full support of these actions

 

[rambo919]

That entire article is a written mess to be honest, the Ukrainian Border Guard reported on the 26th already that there is hope for the defenders of Zmiinyi to be still alive. The media swallowed social media horseschittery, and ran it for clicks and views.

It's the Big Bulky Crap we are talking about here.... all they do is BS.

 

[Solarion]

That entire article is a written mess to be honest, the Ukrainian Border Guard reported on the 26th already that there is hope for the defenders of Zmiinyi to be still alive. The media swallowed social media horseschittery, and ran it for clicks and views.

Same media we must trust for pandemic and vaccine stats. It's a laugh a minute.

 

[Tun@]

Proposed in December


I guess they're too busy writing up sanctions to bother maybe pulling this apart & seeing what could be done.
I suspect that's not part of the plan till some later date.