US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war - PART 2

[Blu82]

Some bad news it is now confirmed the AN-225 is gone.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499352901688385547

 

[Fulcrum29]

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www.washingtonpost.com

Biden administration requests $32.5 billion in Ukraine aid and coronavirus funds as spending talks continue​

Lawmakers must reach an agreement by March 11, and Congress is at odds over what to include in a big funding package​

The Biden administration is asking Congress to approve $32.5 billion to bolster Ukraine against Russian aggression and shore up the United States in the battle against the coronavirus.

The official request arrives as Democrats and Republicans continue to tussle over a broader aid package that many lawmakers hope to append to a still-forming deal to fund the government. Absent imminent action, critical federal agencies and programs are set to run out of money after March 11, imperiling Washington’s ability to respond to both crises in full.

To aid Ukraine, the Biden administration is calling on lawmakers to approve $10 billion, hoping to address the emerging humanitarian crisis in the country in the face of a worsening Russian onslaught. The figure also includes assistance to bolster Ukraine’s defenses, protect its electrical grid from disruption, and further assist other European allies, according to two people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the plans.

$10 billion in aid to Ukraine. I guess having it 'overshadowed' by the $22.5 billion to replenish US key public health programs will make the $10 billion aid to Ukraine an easier sell to Congress, but the US would want their money now in Ukraine. It is the largest aid proposal by any NATO/EU nation to date.

 

[MagNorthDigital]

in 2015 around 1060 people died of domestic violence in Russia. Of them, 756 were men and 304 women

And people here still want Russian brides!

It is very sad but is just part of the lack of general human rights in Russia.

Drank themselves to death, or maybe some extra babushka shade in the soup for a few weeks.

Russian cherries know how to throw hands that's for sure.

 

[rambo919]

World's largest plane destroyed in Ukraine

The world's largest plane, the Antonov AN-225, has been destroyed during the Russian invasion of Ukraine, according to Ukrainian officials, generating alarm and sadness among the aviation world in which it occupies almost cult status.

edition.cnn.com

FFS

It's a plane not your mother.... you will get through life fine without it.

 

[kolaval]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499310493063958530

That expression of "are you ******* insane to say that here"

 

[Polymathic]

So I have got to read the transcript of the conversation.

A coup typically has 3 components :
Seizing control of current govt.
Removal of that govt / leader.
Inserting new govt / leader.

How was 2014 not a coup?

 

[ShaunSA]

/Rubles one out

Well that money shot was a big disappointment

Next time try saving up a bit before rubbing one out in public

 

[MagNorthDigital]

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The ANC can finally afford that lap dance... I mean medical treatment...

 

[Wut]

Same media we must trust for pandemic and vaccine stats. It's a laugh a minute.

Same MyBB members who bought it hook, line and sinker

 

[Cray]

How was 2014 not a coup?

Revolution of Dignity - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

he following day, Kyiv came under effective control of the protesters, and Yanukovych fled the city.[30] On the same day, the Rada (Ukrainian parliament) voted to remove Yanukovych from office by 328-to-0 (out of the Rada’s 450 members).

 

[Mirai]

So by your way of thinking.... it's OK if you just manipulate someone into suicide but not OK if you do the job yourself.

You can't compare manipulation 1 person into suicide to supporting democracy.

Just because the US assists democracy minded people doesn't mean US is bad.

Sometimes these people want that for themselves. People simply don't want Russian domination.

If Russia was democratic, they wouldn't mind Ukraine being democratic too.

You are glossing over far more fundamental issues here.

 

[dualmeister]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499310493063958530

My Эксперт по биржевым стратегиям и экономист в эфире РБК выпил за «смерть» фондового рынка в России is a bit rusty so I will take his word for it

 

[rambo919]

You can't compare manipulation 1 person into suicide to supporting democracy.

Just because the US assists democracy minded people doesn't mean US is bad.

Sometimes these people want that for themselves. People simply don't want Russian domination.

If Russia was democratic, they wouldn't mind Ukraine being democratic too.

You are glossing over far more fundamental issues here.

Yep... keep saying that faced with East Ukrainians going to war to do the exact opposite of what you claim.

 

[Mirai]

Yep... keep saying that faced with East Ukrainians going to war to do the exact opposite of what you claim.

So far the vast majority of Ukrainians is opposing the Russian attack.

You are poisoning the well.

Russia and her people are OK with a very patriarchal system. There is some democracy but Kremlin knows best.

Ukraine wants their own system, inspired more on the West.

That's all there is to it here.

NATO is not a security threat to Moscow. In fact NATO is a source of stability because Ukrainian forces would be under central command. They'd have no access to nukes.

Only thing is that Russia would not be able to intimidate them as much as they have.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Here is a summary of all yesterday's maneuvers:

Institute for the Study of War

Russian forces resumed offensive operations in support of their envelopment of Kyiv on March 2 but made few territorial advances. Russian forces resumed offensive operations on both axes of advance toward Kyiv after largely pausing for 72 hours to

www.understandingwar.org

If I may, pull your string for a moment, that is a good source of information, thank you.

 

[rambo919]

So far the vast majority of Ukrainians is opposing the Russian attack.

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Great..... clearly I was not talking about them but you keep right on talking about it why don't ya.

 

[MagNorthDigital]

Does anyone know what the actual rules are regarding South African citizens heading over to Ukraine to go and fight? Our local WhatsApp group has three laaitjies soliciting donations to get themselves over there.

Fast forward 3 months, and the war is over, and they still living with their parents.

Donations went to buying Bush camo, 2 ply toilet paper and lekke North Face jackets from Cape Union Mart. Cause you know Ukraine gets a bit cold in winter.

 

[Mirai]

Great..... clearly I was not talking about them but you keep right on talking about it why don't ya.

You're using a stupid justification for violence.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Fast forward 3 months, and the war is over, and they still living with their parents.

Donations went to buying Bush camo, 2 ply toilet paper and lekke North Face jackets from Cape Union Mart. Cause you know Ukraine gets a bit cold in winter.

Don't forget 1 or 2 authentic paintball guns that look like AR-15's

 

[dualmeister]

Russian President Vladimir Putin's nuclear threat is prompting Europeans to panic-buy iodine because they believe it may protect them from radiation poisoning, multiple reports say.

Some pharmacies in Bulgaria, Poland, and the Czech Republic have sold out of iodine since Putin launched an invasion into Ukraine and ordered Russia's nuclear weapons to be placed on high alert, Reuters reported.

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