US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

[animal531]

Being conscripted would mean receiving a uniform and being seen as proper military combatants. These people are simply being handed guns and told to go defend their country. They might be seen as resistance fighters and that opens them up to the possibility of simply facing a firing squad when captured. It's the same with mercenaries in that the rules of war don't really apply to them as they aren't unarmed civilians or official military combatants.

Russia doesn't care about rules of war. For example there was a video yesterday of a tank driving over a car (with an elderly driver) for the fun of it.

 

[Wut]

Russia doesn't care about rules of war. For example there was a video yesterday of a tank driving over a car (with an elderly driver) for the fun of it.

It was a Ukrainian Strela and it's been proven many times. Try to keep up!

 

[neoprema]

If they ( EFF ) pulled the **** in Russia that they pull here on a daily basis , Putin would have sorted them out long ago. As for the "West" being evil well there's some truth to it when it comes to sponsoring regime changes.

the regime changes are for the betterment of the people and the world. The problem is many countries after that don't pick up the pieces properly and land up repeating the same problem or making it worse.

 

[Mirai]

You need to maintain context, that sentiment is only in recent times. The usa didn't leave over 70 years ago after 1945, you can't say if eastern europeans in 70 years time might share the same sentiment and welcome russian occupation or reject it.

They could have asked them to leave already in the 90s. Before that I doubt they would want them to even leave, because of the USSR and PRC and the conflicts in the region.

You cannot compare people holding a few bases and following rules and protecting the population, America to Russian bases upholding the oppressive Moscow installed regimes. The locals in Japan being free to do what they wished and even to celebrate war criminals in Shinto shrines.

Comrade Stalin told his satellite Communist subordinates that if it weren't for the NKVD and Red Armies the locals would cover them with their caps. Those forces were needed to pacify and help pacify the local communist forces all those who resisted and any assisting villages.

To compare American military bases to Soviet occupation is crazy.

 

[Mirai]

I lived in Japan for just over two years and they are tolerated, but definitely not welcome. The general sentiment of the average Japanese person at the time was that they would be safer if the yanks left.

China and North Korea only started becoming threats rather recently and the yanks have been there since WW2.

They can ask them to leave any time. The Yanks would obey. They however don't.

The Japanese I know tell me that if it wasn't for the Americans, they'd be like North Korea and they are happy with them there. I suppose it depends on how away from a base you live.

However, while you may have lived in Japan for a couple of years and you spoke to some people who live in a rich society which is free, you haven't lived under any oppressive regime installed by the Soviets. So your reference point is one sided.

 

[Dave]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497503224986750979

 

[Fulcrum29]

moscow: Russia watchdog tells media not to use words 'invasion' and 'assault' - Times of India

Europe News: MOSCOW: Russia's communications regulator on Saturday urged media to remove reports describing Moscow's attack on Ukraine as an "assault, invasion, or.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Russia watchdog tells media not to use words 'invasion' and 'assault'​

MOSCOW: Russia's communications regulator on Saturday urged media to remove reports describing Moscow's attack on Ukraine as an "assault, invasion, or declaration of war".

In a statement, Roskomnadzor accused a number of independent media outlets including television channel Dozhd and Echo of Moscow radio of spreading "unreliable socially significant untrue information" about the shelling of Ukrainian cities by the Russian army and civilian deaths.

 

[Wut]

However, while you may have lived in Japan for a couple of years and you spoke to some people who live in a rich society which is free, you haven't lived under any oppressive regime installed by the Soviets. So your reference point is one sided.

So you have? Cool would love to hear more.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Ok everyone that has a form of intelligence to start with.

/Pats rvZA on the head

Careful... patting leads to stroking.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

moscow: Russia watchdog tells media not to use words 'invasion' and 'assault' - Times of India

Europe News: MOSCOW: Russia's communications regulator on Saturday urged media to remove reports describing Moscow's attack on Ukraine as an "assault, invasion, or.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

/newspeak

 

[Mirai]

I lived in Japan for just over two years and they are tolerated, but definitely not welcome. The general sentiment of the average Japanese person at the time was that they would be safer if the yanks left.

China and North Korea only started becoming threats rather recently and the yanks have been there since WW2.

Yes recently but the NK regime and PRC are not fond of the Japanese. Back then it was Soviet Russia mostly. And later wars broke out nearby.

 

[Mirai]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497496218359898116

So obviously Cyprus would resist given they hold so much oligarch money. But they've been told to shut up.

 

[Fulcrum29]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497502946480869378

This is the beginning of a new page in the history of our states . #MarioDraghi in a phone conversation supported Russia's disconnection from SWIFT, the provision of defense assistance. Ukraine must become part of the #EU.

Say Germany and Italy does support it now, then Russia will be disconnected.

 

[Mystic Twilight]

They could have asked them to leave already in the 90s. Before that I doubt they would want them to even leave, because of the USSR and PRC and the conflicts in the region.

You cannot compare people holding a few bases and following rules and protecting the population, America to Russian bases upholding the oppressive Moscow installed regimes. The locals in Japan being free to do what they wished and even to celebrate war criminals in Shinto shrines.

Comrade Stalin told his satellite Communist subordinates that if it weren't for the NKVD and Red Armies the locals would cover them with their caps. Those forces were needed to pacify and help pacify the local communist forces all those who resisted and any assisting villages.

To compare American military bases to Soviet occupation is crazy.

You're mispresenting two different time frames as equivalent. In 1945 practically the whole pacific navy and plenty of army units from the usa were located in occupying islands around japan, and would have fully invaded and occupied japan if they didn't surrender after the two atomic bombs, which is the same occupation (less the atomic bombs) happening as now with the russians occupying ukraine. You can't compare any other time frame outside of 1943-1946 to today, a "few bases" in the 90's happened after 50 years from 1945, you can come back with your comparison in 50 years time in 2070 after the successful/unsuccessful russian invasion of the ukraine.

 

[Fulcrum29]

/newspeak

Massive.

 

[Mirai]

So you have? Cool would love to hear more.

I know many, many people who have.

 

[rietrot]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497502946480869378

Say Germany and Italy does support it now, then Russia will be disconnected.

This is ww1 territory of incompetent leadership.

 

[Mirai]

You're mispresenting two different time frames as equivalent. In 1945 practically the whole pacific navy and plenty of army units from the usa were located in occupying islands around japan, and would have fully invaded and occupied japan if they didn't surrender after the two atomic bombs, which is the same occupation (less the atomic bombs) happening as now with the russians occupying ukraine. You can't compare any other time frame outside of 1943-1946 to today, a "few bases" in the 90's happened after 50 years, you can come back with your comparison in 50 years time in 2070 after the successful/unsuccessful russian invasion of the ukraine.

There was a Soviet threat of invasion of Japan. There was always a threat of the USSR exerting military pressure on Japan.

What you're saying is nothing I said.

I said that the Americans help to protect Japan from different aggressions. In 1945 it would be the USSR. Later on it would still be the USSR with the PRC emerging as a threat. Meanwhile many conflicts erupted in the region and Japan was protected by the American presence. It was also early days, to fully re-arm Japan. Remember Japan had started a war of aggression and devastated a large part of East Asia.

 

[Wut]

However, while you may have lived in Japan for a couple of years and you spoke to some people who live in a rich society which is free, you haven't lived under any oppressive regime installed by the Soviets. So your reference point is one sided.

I know many, many people who have.

So let me get this straight? You say I haven't lived under an oppressive regime, so my point is one-sided, but you also haven't lived under one either and somehow your point is valid?!?!

I gave my experience about how the Yanks have had troops in Japan since WW2 but that's totally cool even if most average Japanese people don't want them there. But they aren't occupiers somehow in your fantasy but rather protectors.

 

[Mirai]

So let me get this straight? You say I haven't lived under an oppressive regime, so my point is one-sided, but you also haven't lived under one either and somehow your point is valid?!?!

It seems you can't read between the lines.