US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

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s0lar

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You not heard of the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact? USSR was very happy to accomodate the Nazis until the Nazis broke the pact.
Yes am aware. Also aware that Russia took the most casualties against nazi Germany after jilted turned in them. Pretty basic primary school history.

Fact is why would they now support nazis? And to what value to Russia? Just for the fun of it?
 

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You not heard of the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact? USSR was very happy to accomodate the Nazis until the Nazis broke the pact.
Although to be fair I think the Germans got their back stab in before Russia could do it to Germany.

Always liked this cartoon...


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But I have no doubt that Putin would deal with Neo Nazis if he felt it could benefit him..
 

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Hey man. I am trying to be objective here and perhaps learn something. If you have nothing to contribute then don’t post.
Maybe follow Ali on twitter for a bit then... Rather that posting hot-takes with no idea of the bigger picture, learn something from someone who's been in intelligence since the 90s.
 

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Russian APC out of fuel. Ukrainian stops and they banter.


Russians run out of fuel, Ukrainian asks if he can give them a lift back to Russia.
Laughter follows. Why are these people fighting each other, again?

Where are the Z markings on the sides to distinguish them from the Ukrainian vehicles? :unsure:

It couldn't possibly be false flag propaganda, could it? Nevah Evah...

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the regime changes are for the betterment of the people and the world. The problem is many countries after that don't pick up the pieces properly and land up repeating the same problem or making it worse.
So oil reserves is never a reason ?

Here are the 10 countries with the most oil reserves 2022 :
  1. Venezuela (300.90 Bn)
  2. Saudi Arabia (266.50 Bn)
  3. Canada (169.70 Bn)
  4. Iran (158.40 Bn)
  5. Iraq (142.50 Bn)
  6. Kuwait (101.50 Bn)
  7. United Arab Emirates (97.80 Bn)
  8. Russia (80.00 Bn)
  9. Libya (48.40 Bn)
  10. Nigeria (37.10 Bn)
I wonder why the US ( and certain NATO allies )have such a big issue with Venezuelan goverment the last few years?:unsure: ( with usual rebel sponsorship through the CIA ). Going through the above list i notice a pattern if we go by the last few decades of history.
 

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Maybe follow Ali on twitter for a bit then... Rather that posting hot-takes with no idea of the bigger picture, learn something from someone who's been in intelligence since the 90s.
Sorry bruv, I don’t have an account on that cesspool. One way ticket to propaganda bot land.
 

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It didn't post it, but there were reports earlier, reporting 60 Russian airborne troops to have been pushed back by the Ukrainians, but this seems now to be corrected by Ukraine themselves,

More from Peter Beaumont in Lviv on a reported attack by Russian paratroopers in Brody, near the city.

There is a lot of confusion around claims that three Russian helicopters tried to land troops near Brody about 100km from Lviv in Ukraine’s west.

The major of Lviv Andrey Sadovy had this to say on his official page. “At 9 o’clock this morning Russian assault troops landed from three helicopters in vicinity of Brody 60 troops and enemy is withdrawing to the forest. Armed forces are defeating the occupants and the situation is under control.”

However the security services of Ukraine for Lviv region is disputing this saying the information about Russian assault troops near Brody “is fake” adding: “they were Ukrainian helicopters”.

Purported video footage of what occurred this morning shows a helicopter firing two missiles. If it was a Ukrainian aircraft, it still leaves open the question of what they were at.
 
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Let me chip in: Putin is a clever oke, so I've been wondering why he would choose to occupy Ukraine, knowing very well that the Americans have been training Ukrainian would-be-insurgents on how to kill Russians. This has been going on for the past 8 years. I think I have my answer.

From the look of things, it seems like he has managed to convince some in the top brass of the Ukrainian military to take over government. But, fearing Western repercussions if they do, they have asked him to take out Zelensky and company first. Once the leadership vacuum is created, then the generals would take over and negotiate with him. Once a military dictator takes over, joining Nato will become a thing of the past, which is what Putin wants. And if they refuse to hold elections, Ukraine becomes another Belarus, and becomes a friend of Russia.

My theory is supported by this:-

1. Putin has asked them twice already, to lay down their weapons.
2. By his standards, he's very careful to limit trouble to civilians. He could easily REALLY create mayhem and flood Europe with refugees, but he's careful not to do that.
3. Before attacking he almost always gives Ukrainian soldiers a chance to save themselves.
 

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It didn't post it, but there were reports earlier, reporting 60 Russian airborne troops to have been pushed back by the Ukrainians, but this seems now to be corrected by Ukraine themselves,
And that's why at this moment you can't trust anything that's posted. Everything is propaganda right now until the smoke clears.
 

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You not heard of the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact? USSR was very happy to accomodate the Nazis until the Nazis broke the pact.
Here, let me put a face to the name for ya, Chris.

Oh, oh, oh... A British Pathe clip about fascism on the rise in Germany.

Superb deflection.

Here, I have a 'would you be so kind' question for you too.

Name the two in this photograph, please.

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Then, do you want to tell the class why they were meeting and what the result of that meeting was, or should I?

I can offer a hint maybe: Echoes of it in your Daddy Vladdy's day yesterday.
 

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Nazi only means Nationalist Socialist and technically there is nothing excluding Jews from being Nazi's.

This thing of anti-Jew = Nazi is merely decades long propaganda.
Tell me you know fukal about history, without telling me.
 

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Let me chip in: Putin is a clever oke, so I've been wondering why he would choose to occupy Ukraine, knowing very well that the Americans have been training Ukrainian would-be-insurgents on how to kill Russians. This has been going on for the past 8 years. I think I have my answer.

From the look of things, it seems like he has managed to convince some in the top brass of the Ukrainian military to take over government. But, fearing Western repercussions if they do, they have asked him to take out Zelensky and company first. Once the leadership vacuum is created, then the generals would take over and negotiate with him. Once a military dictator takes over, joining Nato will become a thing of the past, which is what Putin wants. And if they refuse to hold elections, Ukraine becomes another Belarus, and becomes a friend of Russia.

My theory is supported by this:-

1. Putin has asked them twice already, to lay down their weapons.
2. By his standards, he's very careful to limit trouble to civilians. He could easily REALLY create mayhem and flood Europe with refugees, but he's careful not to do that.
3. Before attacking he almost always gives Ukrainian soldiers a chance to save themselves.
You sir may be on to something. Keen to see how it plays out.
 

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Civilian berating Russian troops.

Per Reddit translations, he's asking them why they are here and who told them to come here. He tells them that they are killing their own people (Slavs) and that he himself is Russian but chooses to live in Ukraine and respect/recognise its government. He asks if they (Russia) don't have their own problems back home or if they are too rich (refers to Russia as an Emirate) to have problems. He calls them puppets and tells them to fvck off back home.

 

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Let's be honest... a lot of you here choked down Putin's Kool-Aid. I'm guessing it's cause you lack the presence of a strong male figure in your life. Hope you can resolve your daddy issues someday!
We may have butted heads on these forums many a time, but yeah that post deserves a case of the finest from me.
 

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My man,

Zelensky refuses US offer to evacuate saying, "I need ammunition, not a ride"​

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has turned down an offer from the United States of evacuation from the capital city Kyiv, the Ukraine embassy in Britain said Saturday on Twitter.

According to the embassy, Zelensky told the US: "The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.
"Ukrainians are proud of their President," the tweet adds.

In a video posted Saturday morning on Twitter, Zelensky said, "we are not putting down arms."
Zelensky remains a "prime target for Russian aggression," US State Department spokesperson Ned Price said Thursday evening amid Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

It echoed Zelensky's own words that his intelligence said he has become a key target.

Zelensky said Thursday that "according to our information, the enemy marked me as target №1, my family - as target №2. They want to destroy Ukraine politically by destroying the head of state. We have information that enemy sabotage groups have entered Kyiv."

Source: CNN
 
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