US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

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rietrot

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China is currently at war with murica and Russia is an ally.

They will end up standing together.
China cannot be trusted. They're only in it for themselves. And the have other means of taking over. They are buying up land all over the place including US farmland and food production companies.
 

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Staging through Alaska would be very very difficult.
But! What if they place defensive missile installations in Alaska!? Surely that would be an existential threat to Russia that would warrant Russia invading some other small ex-soviet state that is not a member of NATO... somewhere! There must be plenty of those left!
 

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A preventative war. With now Serbia able to do what it wants. But they broke the law and started doing some nasty things back there.

So defensive, yes, we don't want trouble in our region. Now Serbia is play along peacefully and they are prospering.

No NATO troops in Serbia.

You're arguing paranoid potential unlikely scenarios. Given the track record, the Russians are the aggressive ones and not Belgians, Czechs, etc. Seriously?

Russia is a huge country with poor infrastructure. It has a huge army. It has nukes. It would be suicide for anybody to attack them.

All you are afraid of is Russia not being able to bully its neighbours.
Ok do you now see the implication to border security? I am guessing not. So be it. Be blind bro, thats your call.
 

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It will send a clear message and will harm the Russian economy. Russians can stop it by stopping the fighting and withdrawing.

China is also partially blocking Russia. I already told people here that China has no love for Russia. China will side with those who are prosperous and distant, namely the EU, and who don't threaten them. China will play all sides but will not assist the Russians too much. Chinese won't die or have love for big nosed people.
Any link to back that up? Seems they did the opposite. Or is that another simple misguided view of yours?

 

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Seems counter productive for the Ukrainian side. If it was Twitter self.

How will the anti war protests in Russia be organized now.
 

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Ok do you now see the implication to border security? I am guessing not. So be it. Be blind bro, thats your call.

What border security? Countries co-operate. Normal civilised countries border agencies and police, co-ordinate their actions and guard against smuggling etc.

What border security? It's precisely border issues which have to be settled if you want to be in NATO.
 

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But! What if they place defensive missile installations in Alaska!? Surely that would be an existential threat to Russia that would warrant Russia invading some other small ex-soviet state that is not a member of NATO... somewhere! There must be plenty of those left!
There are already bases there AFAIK but it's inhospitable on both sides for major permanent staged troops. Likely there is an existing status quo agreement in place and Biden is already respecting that by not redeployment us troops save for those as part of nato already.
 

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Good riddance. Can we do the same for Insta and TikTok here in SA?
For once I almost support the Kremlin's move. Can't have Russians on the WWW. Only causes k*k.

/belligerent facetiousness to be clear (happy to hear of any reasonable Russians out there, opposing Putin's bull s**t)
 

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Any link to back that up? Seems they did the opposite. Or is that another simple misguided view of yours?


Why do I need a link? China has 1000s of years and they want peace and stability. They already told the Russians to cease fire. They want to sell to Russia and Ukraine.

Chinese don't like whites. They especially don't like poor whites. They also see themselves superior.
 

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NATO is a defensive alliance, they have never shown any aggression towards Russia.

NATO is just a mask for what the US wants to do & whilst i suspect this world could live together as one quite peacefully the US wants Russia & China contained & NATO is a tool for that. See AUKUS also.

NS2 but one example of the results.
 

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Seems counter productive for the Ukrainian side. If it was Twitter self.

How will the anti war protests in Russia be organized now.

To quote article,

Network data show that access to the Twitter platform and backend servers are restricted on leading networks including Rostelecom, MTS, Beeline and MegaFon as of 9:00 a.m. Saturday morning UTC.

Circumvention is currently possible using VPN services, which can help users work around the restrictions.

On Friday, Russian telecoms regulator Roskomnadzor issued a statement over the restriction of advertising for Russian news outlets on Facebook, stating that retaliatory limitations would be imposed on the popular social network.
 

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There are already bases there AFAIK but it's inhospitable on both sides for major permanent staged troops. Likely there is an existing status quo agreement in place and Biden is already respecting that by not redeployment us troops save for those as part of nato already.
So on the East the US is considered a good neighbour next door? But in every other context it is the devil in Russian propaganda?
Sounds like some heavy mental gymnastics designed to convince stupid people to me.
 

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What war?

The USA and China has economic tensions, but it isn't a war.
It's a cold war.... tensions alone don't describe anything happening and economics is merely a fraction of what is going on.

China is constantly hacking murica, they are stealing IP's all the time, they are disrupting society in general, their confucian departments in murican universities are basically intelligence centers, they are attempting to spread their backdoored networking hardware all over the world, etc.....

China currently will utterly destroy the US asymmetrically if it can. This is war and every murican corp that has moved to China basically has committed treason.

China has managed to convince most of the populace of it's victim that it is not at war.... and it is strangling this victim slowly.
 

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NATO is just a mask for what the US wants to do & whilst i suspect this world could live together as one quite peacefully the US wants Russia & China contained & NATO is a tool for that. See AUKUS also.

NS2 but one example of the results.

NATO is keeping peace in Europe. It has kept the Russians out and any rising German ambitions tempered. Others also want the Russians out and not want to be bullied by them.
 
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