US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

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Kosmik

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What is your point? I'm not saying that he's right but I'm also not saying that it's as clear cut as people think it is and especially the tactic of enforced conscription and forcing civilians to become combatants ( those who chose to NOT take up arms ) and become meat fodder for basically the propaganda mill.
 

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there's your problem right there ... reject news from the Guardian, but accept the Kremlin as neutral and trustworthy :ROFL:
no that is your assumption

I'm reading multiple sources, until opposing sources state the same thing I do not post it here as fact, I use words like "apparently" and "allegedly" to make that clear

unlike your ilk
 

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Ever heard of propaganda? Will they really risk the face of the resistance?
Yes, it's the stuff you have fallen for thinking that Putin is somehow not the main one here at fault in this disaster.
 

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To be clear I find it tragic that civilians are fighting. But more than that... I find it tragic that they feel they have to. That's entirely on Russia as far as I'm concerned. From any reasonable perspective it is perfectly understandable.

Rietrot's rhetoric in the matter infuriates me. This tendency of being perfectly happy while Russians send Chechen kill squads after the members of a democratically elected civilian government of, and during the invasion of, a sovereign nation. But then the moment some civilians fight back he's like: "Now their gonna really get f'd up!"
Citizens should never have to fight for their own streets.

It is a tragedy.

Russia has put them in this position.
 

The Trutherizer

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I'm telling you what is going to happen.

They stopped being civilians the moment they engaged in the battle.

I just hope they realize this.
Well whatever further brutality Russia brings down on them, they can rest assured that the world will never judge Russia as acting within its rights. Not when this entire invasion, the reason why those armoured vehicles are there, is itself illegal.
The world. Including people in Russia itself. But of course... A bit of poison in the underwear solves all problems.
 

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Yes, it's the stuff you have fallen for thinking that Putin is somehow not the main one here at fault in this disaster.
the same stuff you fell for thinking Putin is somehow the only one here at fault for this disaster :X3:
 

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no that is your assumption

I'm reading multiple sources, until opposing sources state the same thing I do not post it here as fact, I use words like "apparently" and "allegedly" to make that clear

unlike your ilk

LOL you were literally just making up conspiracy theories about Zelenskyy posting fake videos just a minute ago. :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
 

NarrowBandFtw

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Citizens should never have to fight for their own streets.

It is a tragedy.

Russia has put them in this position.
no, when you pick up arms you put yourself in that position, Russia forced them to choose, they still made their own choice

and if they choose to fight they become combatants, simple as that
 

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LOL you were literally just making up conspriracy theories about Zelenskyy posting fake videos. :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
oh ffs, "conspiracy", what an asinine mindless retort

I posted the video and told you what I find odd about it, where the fahk is the conspiracy? retard! jesus christ do you have any IQ at all?
 

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oh ffs, "conspiracy", what an asinine mindless retort

I posted the video and told you what I find odd about it, where the fahk is the conspiracy? retard! jesus christ do you have any IQ at all?

The conspiracy would be (at the least) between Zelenskyy, the military personnel he is with, the camera man and the person who edited the video to make it look like he is somewhere else.
 

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The president of Ukraine.


I get the feeling Putin thought he would have fled, leaving Kyiv for his pickings.
Lol reading that thread it is amazing that Borris just can't get a break. He has been warmongering just as hard as the average Twitter lefty for Ukraine. And they still don't like him.

Nevermind you posting fake old photos. Lol.
 
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NarrowBandFtw

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The conspiracy would be (at the least) between Zelenskyy, the military personnel he is with, the camera man and the person who edited the video to make it look like he is somewhere else.
you mean all in your deluded head

there is a video, one can look at it themselves and make their own determination completely independent of any "conspiracy" ... it looks suspect to me, you wanna swallow it whole that is your choice, Ukraine's only been posting fake shyte 24/7 for 3 days now ... I'm sure this one is real :ROFL:
 

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so ... hold up, popping some corn first ... ok good, all ready ...

what does our resident TDS army think of the Qanon crowd claiming this invasion is in fact Russia taking on the deep state as the ultimate white hat ally to Trump's mission of draining the swamp?

/grabs chair
 

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pointless, Kiev is going to be destroyed and thousands killed, for what? Sit down and negotiate a peace, war is pointless.

Did you ever think that Ukraine was just about to join NATO.. if they had joined then Russia wouldn't attack them as they would then be in a war against all NATO states. Maybe their information gathering was that it was imminent so they acted quickly? Worth a think..

Would Ukraine be so worse off if they signed a peace treaty that says "we will not join NATO" hmmm.. clearly something else was promised to Ukraine and that's why they never wanted to accept this.

The West will not learn, in the 1960's they stuck their Jupiter missiles with nuclear weapons in Turkey, pointed at Russia.. so Russia stuck their nukes in Cuba pointed at America. Take a guess which country was vilified and made to be the insane one.
 
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