US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

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rietrot

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Well unlike you, I haven’t been analysing the situation for the last 8 years, so please do explain. The last effort was @rvZA saying we should have blown up the world, what would have been your solution?
#5000 post in, here you are pretending to be stupid and asking someone to start over.

Common, read back.
 

daveza

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Where is the mighty Pootin anyway, I thought he would be standing on the Kremlin while his adoring comrades cheer him for getting their sons and brothers killed.
 

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Russia's 'dirty bomb' speculation is fake - Ukraine​

Ukraine's Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba has hit back at allegations that his government intends to detonate a dirty bomb on Russian territory.

Dirty bombs are devices that combine conventional explosives with radioactive material and are designed to kill thousands of people instantly.

Russian state TV has also been discussing the prospect in recent days and at Friday night's UN Security Council meeting Russia's ambassador Vasily Nebenzya told delegates: "We do not want Ukraine to develop a 'dirty bomb'."

In a tweet, Kuleba ridiculed the suggestion, saying: "Russian propaganda has gone off the rails."

Better @Norrad ?
 

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Well unlike you, I haven’t been analysing the situation for the last 8 years, so please do explain. The last effort was @rvZA saying we should have blown up the world, what would have been your solution?
he's entitled to his views of course

my solution?

actually negotiate with Russia, they raised a legitimate, very real concern, they were laughed off, now we have war
negotiation implies concessions from both sides

concessions I suspect may have worked:
- any country not already in NATO and bordering Russia becomes ineligible for membership, same goes for CSTO membership
- any country already in NATO and bordering Russia has membership status changed to a new kind of membership: one that specifically forbids any offensive maneuvers / tactical or strategic weaponry being present, nor any multilateral military exercises on the territory, with contravention of this being deemed an act of war, same goes for CSTO
- actually implement Minsk agreements, failure to do so within a preset timeframe resulting in automatic sanctions against the offenders
- stop blaming Russia for shyte it never did (hello US election hoax)
 

IndigoIdentity

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The vacuous argument about NATO falls flat if you know geography.

I guess the Putin bots don't get shown the latest maps by their handlers. Probably still have USSR maps.

Russia is afraid of the Ukraine becoming a NATO country, so then invades it.

Meanwhile Ukraine shares it border with 4 NATO countries. So Russia just expanded their de-facto front to get closer to 4 more NATO countries.

Also they are now even closer to those dreaded NATO missiles.
I am in tears about this one, you clearly do not. Why are you arguing?
 

Fulcrum29

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Russian troops have destroyed a concrete dam in Ukraine, Reuters reports.

Forces destroyed a dam built in Ukraine’s Kherson Region in 2014 to cut off water to Crimea, the RIA news agency quoted the governor of Russian-annexed Crimea Sergei Aksyonov as saying on Saturday.

Reuters reports the details from Moscow:

Ukraine cut off the fresh water supply to Crimea by damming a canal that had supplied 85% of the peninsula’s needs before Moscow annexed Crimea in 2014.
The Soviet-era canal was built to channel water from the River Dnieper to arid areas of Ukraine’s Kherson region and Crimea.
 

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he's entitled to his views of course

my solution?

actually negotiate with Russia, they raised a legitimate, very real concern, they were laughed off, now we have war
negotiation implies concessions from both sides

concessions I suspect may have worked:
- any country not already in NATO and bordering Russia becomes ineligible for membership, same goes for CSTO membership
- any country already in NATO and bordering Russia has membership status changed to a new kind of membership: one that specifically forbids any offensive maneuvers / tactical or strategic weaponry being present, nor any multilateral military exercises on the territory, with contravention of this being deemed an act of war, same goes for CSTO
- actually implement Minsk agreements, failure to do so within a preset timeframe resulting in automatic sanctions against the offenders
- stop blaming Russia for shyte it never did (hello US election hoax)

Russia can't decide who gets to join or not join NATO. That's not Russia's prerogative. Using war to stop countries from doing this is precisely the reason why NATO is necessary.

NarrowBand is really a Russian troll.
 

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There are lots of poorly aged posts and some hilariously bad takes in this thread :ROFL:

Yet you are too afraid to put your neck out and state what you believe? This is your only post in this thread.

There are many valid reasons for not believing in US intelligence, especially when it comes to Russia.
 

rvZA

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This pretty much sums up the world vs Russia at this moment in time...
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NarrowBandFtw

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Russia can't decide who gets to join or not join NATO. That's not Russia's prerogative. Using war to stop countries from doing this is precisely the reason why NATO is necessary.

NarrowBand is really a Russian troll.
begone US troll

I was asked for my solution and I answered, and if you bothered to read you would see it contains concessions for BOTH sides

alas you can't read, your brainwashing does not allow it
 

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he's entitled to his views of course

my solution?

actually negotiate with Russia, they raised a legitimate, very real concern, they were laughed off, now we have war
negotiation implies concessions from both sides

concessions I suspect may have worked:
- any country not already in NATO and bordering Russia becomes ineligible for membership, same goes for CSTO membership
- any country already in NATO and bordering Russia has membership status changed to a new kind of membership: one that specifically forbids any offensive maneuvers / tactical or strategic weaponry being present, nor any multilateral military exercises on the territory, with contravention of this being deemed an act of war, same goes for CSTO
- actually implement Minsk agreements, failure to do so within a preset timeframe resulting in automatic sanctions against the offenders

So appease Russia by bending over and taking it dry? Dude, why on earth should Russia be able to dictate to any sovereign state what they can and can’t do like some playground bully? And you think this is reasonable presumably because it affects others and not you?
- stop blaming Russia for shyte it never did (hello US election hoax)

So also don’t piss off Russia in case they get upset? And these are solutions? Earlier on we were told to stand up and face Putin down, now you are saying to do the exact opposite and suck him off in case he gets upset?

Unbelievable.
 

tetrasect

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Here is the better quality version direct from his Twitter. I'm calling green screen on it. Look at the video artifacts around his outline. Also seems he is using a potato phone for all his vids :unsure: /opinion


Yeah in fact Zelenskyy is hiding out at Universal Studios in Hollywood. Been there since December producing these kinds of clips.
 
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