US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

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Spizz

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This pretty much sums up the world vs Russia at this moment in time...
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Brilliant. And true
 

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So appease Russia by bending over and taking it dry? Dude, why on earth should Russia be able to dictate to any sovereign state what they can and can’t do like some playground bully? And you think this is reasonable presumably because it affects others and not you?


So also don’t piss off Russia in case they get upset? And these are solutions? Earlier on we were told to stand up and face Putin down, now you are saying to do the exact opposite and suck him off in case he gets upset?

Unbelievable.
This exact fact has been the debate of the last 4000 or so posts. Seems you have reading to do.
 

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Estonia total land area: ~45 thousand square km
Russia total land area: ~17 million square km

who's airspace is more needed in international air travel? :cool:
I think for Estonia is really just a statement maker ...... a bit like SA weighing in on the deal, demanding Russia pack up their stuff and leave. I think the going response in that region is something like "Go fek yourself". :p
 

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Jesus, that's messed up, don't care where he is from, hang him from a yard arm.
Well. No one died right? Is it really worth killing someone over?

You said it yourself, the people in the wars tend to be forced into them.

Imagine yourself in said military vehicle, riding around the city for the past 2 hours trying to find your unit to know avail. You know full well that you're a massive target and likely expecting a missile on your head any second now. Personally I would likely be pretty scared, even terrified.

What are you in the military if you just leave that vehicle where it stands and walk away? What are the consequences?

My guess, driver likely immobilized the vehicle on purpose given that the last place he wanted to be was in that god damned thing.

Was it right?

No... But neither of those two victims actually want to be in this war do they? They are simply the cost...
 

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begone US troll

I was asked for my solution and I answered, and if you bothered to read you would see it contains concessions for BOTH sides

alas you can't read, your brainwashing does not allow it

Your solution is just a Russian imperial wet dream.

Russia is not special. They don't get to decide who joins what alliance or does not join. They have a responsibility on their own territory to their own people and that ends there. Russia is not some super race of god like beings.

Russia must come to terms that NATO will expand and NATO will strengthen.
Russia instead should, become democratic and open. Realise and come to terms, as the UK, France did, Japan did and many other countries did, that their empire days are over. They need to act responsibly.

Until such a time NATO will just get stronger, European countries will develop and buy more US hardware.
Advanced ABM capabilities will be put in place.

Russia will be isolated. Russia has to make a choice. Be just and not paranoid. Respect others and they will be respected. Threats are not the way to gain respect because Russia can't change its neighbours and they are here for the long haul and they remember. It's better to just get along.
 

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Estonia total land area: ~45 thousand square km
Russia total land area: ~17 million square km

who's airspace is more needed in international air travel? :cool:
Lmao at use of shades emoji. You jizzed your pants at the mere thought of the size Mother Russia there comrade?
 

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Mirai

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LMFAO, wake the fahk up, look around, if NATO expands we all die, the entire planet dies

When Russian economy weakens and they change their attitude, NATO will expand.

NATO is definitely not going away, after this. This war is a big deal. Russians have overplayed their hand terribly here. All that work in bribing so many business partners, ex German politicians, etc... all those investments, building a fleet to protect Nordstrom I and II, all of that is now jeopardised.
 

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Yeah in fact Zelenskyy is hiding out at Universal Studios in Hollywood. Been there since December producing these kinds of clips.
Check the shadows in the background. The video was posted at 7:57 AM in the morning (A winter morning I might add) so the sun should be low down in the sky, but every shadow is directly under the objects in the background. The light in his face was also from the right, so some shadows should be cast to the left but they aren't. I will post it all for you again. So my opinion stands that it was a green screen. /opinion

I'm just pointing out possible BS :whistling:

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you do know what "same goes for CSTO" means right?


not sovereign states, they absolutely may demand from NATO what NATO promised them

you do know what "same goes for CSTO" means right?


not sovereign states, they absolutely may demand from NATO what NATO promised them

And should they also be able to make demands on Finland and Sweden?
 
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