US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

[Mirai]

The point is the US military has advanced far better, with far more superior technology while the Russian military has stayed relatively stagnant.

So that meme has no basis in fact.

It's a stupid meme.

a Russian speaking wife who happens to be a Latvian national

I'd wager I know a hell of a lot more about Latvia than most on this forum
I've only been there in person once prior to the Euro and multiple times after, it's easy to see the decline

but hey it is "trolling" , god you're digging that hole

I suppose it is also "trolling" to point out:
- Eurozone membership meant Latvia has been limited to an EU quota on dairy production
- Latvia's main produce happens to be ... dairy
- Eurozone membership also came with the condition of limiting exports to Russia
- Latvia's main buyer happens to have been ... Russia

Latvia could have not joined the Eurozone. But it's obvious they prefer to not be in the Russian sphere of influence. Latvians are not even Slavic people but Balts. Russia has a some big Eastern slav complex. Two headed Eagle - successor to Byzantine Empire.

Anyhow this has nothing to do with NATO and definitely not with the rest of Europe. Your Latvian wife gives you a Latvian privilegde. Is she even Slavic?

Are you?

Maybe you should stick to braais? And stick to topics involving Latvia maybe. Don't speak for the rest of Europe.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Can you cite where he decries the loss of his peoples lives?

It's all about him, what about them?

You have issues, you asked this,

Why has he made this about his family and not the countless numerous amounts of people in his country that have lost their lives?

then I stopped reading your long-winded post, because 1) you and many others here are incapable to answer questions and 2) to quote the article you have allegedly read since you have quoted it,

Ukraine's president has admitted he is 'target number one' for Russian assassins in Kyiv - and his wife and children are 'number two' - but insists he remains in the capital despite being at the top of Putin's kill list with the city under siege, declaring: 'I'm staying with my people'.

First paragraph...

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

I, for one, hope he pays the new petrol price we will see in April with a smile.

decades of building inflation world wide is why you see that price

you think war has anything to do with it?

the oil price has been much higher in the past while the petrol price was much lower than now

 

[ScrooV]

 

[Mirai]

To paraphrase Trump.
"Russia is not sending their best, no they're not."
They are still making huge gains.
Rich Piana would have been proud.

Going by all these NATO people sending equipment.
If the US wasnt already arming the insurgents that they end up fighting anyway.
NATO/US can never again use the "those guys are bad because they arm separatists" argument.

NATO is arming a sovereign state which is defending itself against an attack.

 

[rambo919]

Latvian Russian, quite a difference

Mirai : -5
NBTF : 10

 

[Kieppie]

Too much Russia Today. What's that guy name who does those business reports with that blonde chick?

Kaiser?

 

[The Trutherizer]

I will add both the questions in here as they basically repeated.

Man. Don't think for a second that I feel no pain when I see people die. I have a big heart, it always hurts regardless.

But to the point...

Why has he made this about his family and not the countless numerous amounts of people in his country that have lost their lives?

Why is he unable to admit that he himself is not a traitor given the Russian calls to topple his government?

If his family is at a security risk, the need to get the hell out of there so that he can focus on the best interests of his people?

He is there with the people to fight with them but in reality he is in hiding at some unknown location?

I see three ends to this Zelensky in Ukraine:

1.) Russia takes all of Ukraine, he leaves the country.
2.) Fullcrum is right and we see a split between the west and the east of Ukraine, in which case he will move to the western part of Ukraine.
3.) He is torn to shreds from the inside out, similar to the fate of Sadam or Gaddafi.

Watching the Putin up until now, I can't help but think that he has been saying their intention all along.

No one was listening, it seems to me that he is out to make a point of the hypocrisy that exists. I can imagine that he is looking for option 3.

But that's simply my own point of view.

Russia will exhaust itself in this conflict.
They are over-committing.
Not progressing as fast as they had hoped.
Are experiencing more resistance than they expected.
Have squandered diplomatic capital worldwide. Getting in bed with China which has its own price.
Is facing a veritable nuclear winter of sanctions.
Even faces the wrath of many of their own citizens domestically.
Forever turned Ukraine against them.

Frankly... Putin told business people in Russia that he had to do it to save Russia, but no matter how bad it looked then (whatever the perceived threat was... take a pick) - After this will be way worse.

 

[Mirai]

Kaiser?

Yep that one.

 

[IndigoIdentity]

You have issues, you asked this,



then I stopped reading your long-winded post, because 1) you and many others here are incapable to answer questions and 2) to quote the article you have allegedly read since you have quoted it,



First paragraph...

You're accusing me of not reading an article that I have read in full beforehand, then disregard completely my question by saying that I am incapable of answering a question?

I asked you a simple question, can you cite the part where he cries the loss of his peoples life?

Why does it start out with him and not them?

Because I don't buy the whole poor me sob story, this war didn't start a few days ago... It's been raging for decades already.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Latvia could have not joined the Eurozone. But it's obvious they prefer to not be in the Russian sphere of influence

they miss the Russian money something awful, I assure you, if they could have it back they'd take it in an instant

sadly someone sold them a lie about the prosperity of joining the eurozone, reality is the exact opposite, but now it is too late

it was always about money, Russia's "sphere of influence" is not something Latvians care about in the least

 

[Unhappy438]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497619842551230468

Russians getting it.

 

[Mirai]

they miss the Russian money something awful, I assure you, if they could have it back they'd take it in an instant

sadly someone sold them a lie about the prosperity of joining the eurozone, reality is the exact opposite, but now it is too late

it was always about money, Russia's "sphere of influence" is not something Latvians care about in the least

They are free to leave NATO and the EU. They have free elections there. Tell your wife.

Your wife came from a Communist party family? I know some of those people across Eastern Europe sometimes miss the old days.

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

NATO is arming a sovereign state which is defending itself against an attack.

So arming Hamas would be ok with Israel or USA ?
How about arming North Korea ?

 

[Kieppie]

Yep that one.

If only I'd listened to him about Bitcoin when it was something like $1, but I thought he's crazy..

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

They are free to leave NATO and the EU

someone forgot to watch the whole multi decade Brexit battle in the news

you think you can just up and leave? dream on

 

[Fred07]

Just in from Imgur:

https://imgur.com/a/QXsvJsZ

 

[Fulcrum29]

You're accusing me of not reading an article that I have read in full beforehand, then disregard completely my question by saying that I am incapable of answering a question?

Yes, because you deliberately changed the article's context to advance an argument into your desired direction, to quote the headline,

'I am target number ONE, my wife and children are number TWO': President Zelensky stands firm against Putin with vow to 'stay with his people' in Ukrainian capital despite Russian kill squads that are hunting for him and his family​

I asked you a simple question, can you cite the part where he cries the loss of his peoples life?

I thought you read the article...

He called his fallen compatriots 'heroes' after 137 were killed on the first day of fighting, and insisted he will stay until the bitter end.

He said: 'They're killing people and turning peaceful cities into military targets. It's foul and will never be forgiven.

'We have been left alone to defend our state. Who is ready to fight alongside us? I don't see anyone.

My accusation continues to stand, correct.

Why does it start out with him and not them?

Did Zelensky write the article? I mean, that is up to the author, no?

Because I don't buy the whole poor me sob story, this war didn't start a few days ago... It's been raging for decades already.

Grow up.

 

[Cray]

someone forgot to watch the whole multi decade Brexit battle in the news

you think you can just up and leave? dream on

So did the UK leave the EU or not? How long did it take after the referendum result for them to leave?

 

[Wut]

Just in from Imgur:

https://imgur.com/a/QXsvJsZ

No Z markings so take that with a pinch of salt. False flag propaganda probably.