US and NATO escalation of conflict with Russia is leading to war

[Kosmik]

Just use Google maps.

Or satellite photos, military GPS......

Its not the 1940s.

 

[Mirai]

Better go change your reddit/twitter to Ukrainian flags too, wouldnt want anyone there to be unaware of your support of genocide and neo nazism.
Every single one of those mentioned by me was proven fake.
This profile is patently real as you are replying to it.

As Twitter is banned in Russia, it's OK, we don't have to worry about offending anyone.

 

[Wut]

Just use Google maps.

Driving in Eastern Europe is a nightmare even with an updated dedicated military GPS. Just ask the Ukrainian Strela driver who got lost and ran over that car All jokes aside I honestly hated driving in Georgia and Estonia, so I can only imagine it's the same in the Ukraine.

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

As Twitter is banned in Russia, it's OK, we don't have to worry about offending anyone.

Oh yeah i forgot the part where if you endorse genocide and neo nazism.
You probably dont care about others anyway.
Except if it is to virtue signal.

 

[Mirai]

Oh yeah i forgot the part where if you endorse genocide and neo nazism.
You probably dont care about others anyway.
Except if it is to virtue signal.

I really don't virtue signal. I'm an anon here.

If you like Russia so much, why u don't move there?

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

Driving in Eastern Europe is a nightmare even with an updated dedicated military GPS. Just ask the Ukrainian Strela driver who got lost and ran over that car All jokes aside I honestly hated driving in Georgia and Estonia, so I can only imagine it's the same in the Ukraine.

You mean the Ukrainian special communications division lied to us when they said it was a Russian "tank" ?
I am shocked.
Why would they do that, just go on the internet and lie ?

 

[Mirai]

Driving in Eastern Europe is a nightmare even with an updated dedicated military GPS. Just ask the Ukrainian Strela driver who got lost and ran over that car All jokes aside I honestly hated driving in Georgia and Estonia, so I can only imagine it's the same in the Ukraine.

All courtesy of that Russian system imposed on these people. And still an issue because of the corruption also imposed by the Tsarist/Soviet/Neo Tsarist system. But hey, gotta support the same system.

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

I really don't virtue signal. I'm an anon here.

If you like Russia so much, why u don't move there?

Like Russia ?
Do you have to like things for them to be right ?
No, it is right whether you like it or not.
Unless you are only guided by emotion.

Say, you seem to be following me around a fair bit.
You must like me.
Mind if i move in to you ?

 

[Wut]

All courtesy of that Russian system imposed on these people. And still an issue because of the corruption also imposed by the Tsarist/Soviet/Neo Tsarist system. But hey, gotta support the same system.

Just like apartheid then?

 

[Mirai]

Like Russia ?
Do you have to like things for them to be right ?
No, it is right whether you like it or not.
Unless you are only guided by emotion.

Say, you seem to be following me around a fair bit.
You must like me.
Mind if i move in to you ?

Yes.I think Russophiles think it's such a just and great place, have they considered moving there?
I mean the West is so evil and full of those Western things, u know, like antibiotics, chemo for cancer, safe cars, iPhones, accountability, etc.

 

[Mirai]

Just like apartheid then?

Way worse. SA corruption is a joke compared to that in much of the former Eastern bloc.

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

Yes.I think Russophiles think it's such a just and great place, have they considered moving there?
I mean the West is so evil and full of those Western things, u know, like antibiotics, chemo for cancer, safe cars, iPhones, accountability, etc.

Yes
No evil in the West whatsoever.
Your false equivalency and baiting makes me think you are a woman and your name is Maria.

 

[ReaperSanta]

Does no one notice the intervention with SA?

SA is somehow pushing to involve themselves into something major...

 

[Mirai]

Yes
No evil in the West whatsoever.
Your false equivalency and baiting makes me think you are a woman and your name is Maria.

You know Maria is also a man's name.

 

[Wut]

You know Maria is also a man's name.

Imagine the poor dude going through school with that name...

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

You know Maria is also a man's name.

You do a fine job trolling here.
Loving the West seeing no wrong.
You do love innocent people dying though dont you.
Oh wait i guess those WMD's will be found any day now, and all those millions displaced/killed via US use of its military industrial complex deserved it in your opinion.

 

[Wut]

Does no one notice the intervention with SA?

SA is somehow pushing to involve themselves into something major...

We have nothing to commit to any involvement beyond some hot air posturing.

 

[The Trutherizer]

Hmm, interesting take.

So basically Russia will expend itself in Ukraine after a long and protracted battle over several months, years and lead to a military ultimate failure?

I know it's basically impossible to tell at this point, but what is your point of view on that?

On the progressing as far as they had hoped part, will admit I did skip some pages earlier from where I was at to respond to the recent comments so have not fully caught up. Are you drawing from opinion too or are there any links which discussed the expectations vs current progress of the campaign?

Last few points I agree with for the most part but I don't think the sanctions will have much of direct threat on their current military position. To me, it seems that they are well stocked and ready to wage a war on the borderlands.

To be honest, the day NATO deploys troops to Russia is the day that we see escalation of conflict the likes of which the world has never seen. So yeah, I kind of get his point of view on this in saying that should he not have made this move then it would be the end of Russia.

The bear was poked, this time it has not stepped back. This is a major shift in world climates either way.

Russia positioned it's forces for months before the invasion, precisely, and then basically sent everything in and went straight for Kiev. It's pretty clear shock and awe, as well as a rapid victory, was the plan.
Don't know if they have a plan B, but it will not be cheap.

At a time when the world has instituted crippling sanctions against Russia for its actions.
Many seem to want to dismiss those sanctions as trivial, but they are extreme. Hundreds of billions of Dollars worth of funds are not just wiped away without somebody feeling it. Much has been said about some war chest they have, but they also need to be able to use it for it to mean anything.

At the very least we can be sure the wealthy in Russia are currently extremely uncomfortable. As an example: Russia has been trying to get more warm water ports for ages. Now their merchant vessels are not even allowed to navigate some key waterways in Europe. Let alone trade via European ports.
What are they gonna do? Sell apartments in London, NY and Florida? Those assets have been frozen.
Much of their high tech equipment also relies on parts from everywhere as is the case for everybody. So what they have now, apart from aged designs, is likely what they will have in the future.

Moscow will face serious problems abroad and domestically. People, entire countries, are not as self-sufficient as they were circa WW2. Russians will by and large hate this development as much as the rest of the world does. Probably more. Russia is not the Soviet Union, with a large population of serfs providing for everything the city people need, anymore. Regardless of what the Kremlin does, information will flow in from the rest of the world too. Internal division and opposition will be substantial.

And the power brokers, the wealthy in Russia will have the final say. Putin is only still in charge because he has pandered to them. Has maintained a status quo where they can thrive.

The way I see it they are hoping they can get the sanctions to be lifted swiftly somehow. If they can't, then they are in for a long cold winter.

 

[Mirai]

https://www.reddit.com/r/southafrica/comments/t1wqgv

 

[IndigoIdentity]

Ukraine has a land border with 4 NATO countries, so Putin invading Ukraine brings Russia closer to those 4 borders.

Hence the excuse that he doesn't want a NATO neighbour doesn't fly.

Since he stated he believes Ukraine is implicitly Russian and is now invading it, it certainly suggest he wishes Ukraine to be part of Russia.

What error in geography have I made?

Error: Review topographical and resource maps too.